Well she went and did it...the CFO bought a new 5er. Really. It was her idea!

It's a Keystone Sprinter 29 footer, two slides. My only concern is the pin weight. It's 2200# and my current 5er is 1510#. It's probably the bedroom slide that makes the front so much heavier than out current 5er.

I believe the payload for my truck is 2500#. I have 70 gals. of fuel plus the weight of the hitch. I think I'll be right payload max.

Do you think this is too much for my truck? I have the camper package with extra overload leaf.

 

Let's just say I think you are over payload weight.
I have a 3500 QC SB and my payload is 3000.
If you don't have air bags then you may won't to go and get a set.
That 70 gal tank of fuel is 595lbs fuel only, then add in the weight of the tank, maybe 100lbs.
Now let's add the 3 together 2200lbs pin weight, 595lbs fuel oil, and 100lb tank=2895lbs and guess what that doesn't even include the hitch, you, mamason, and your stuff in the 5VR.
Yeah you are way over weight.
You need to upgrade and get a 04.5 dually

 

A 2004.5 Dually....that would be in my perfect world!!

 

I just happen to have the 2001 truck line-up brochure handy and it says that a 2001 - 2500 - 2x4 - QC - payload maximum is 3500/3370 lbs. if I'm reading it correctly. Can someone shed some light on this? I scanned the page from the book. Is the 3500 lb. for the long bed and the 3370 lb. for the short bed,,,,,,,,, I can't find any referance to it in the brochure.

BTW,,,,,,,,,,, Congrads on the new rig Buzz!

 

Rattlin',

Thanks for the info...I feel better already! I don't know where I got the 2500# figure...but it's stuck in the old memory bank for some reason.

I did drop the a similar 5er (same pin weight) on my truck while at the dealer and she did carry it well. It sat level...did't squat my truck any. I think I'll be fine.

 

Guess I should have thought a bit before I made the statement below,,,, (still seems kinda wierd)

OK,,,,,,,,
After looking at this chart again ,,,,,,,,

Are we to assume that the 2001, 4x2, QC with the shorter wheelbase (139") - 6.5' bed - has a payload of 3500 lbs.?

And the 2001, 4x2, QC with the longer wheelbase (155") - 8' bed - has a smaller payload of only 3370 lbs. according to this chart?

 

It's sort of like; the heavier the truck the less it can carry. Makes sense. Especially if the suspension, engine, etc. on both the long bed and short bed are the same. You'll notice that 4x4's have a lighter payload due to the extra differential, etc..

 

In my experience the published curb weight and payload figures can be off by 1000 pounds. You need to add all the options and passengers to the curb weight and subtract it from the payload. Two passengers, a couple of dogs, fiver hitch and a bit of personal gear can easily take away 700 pounds from your payload. My dually with two passengers, dogs and hitch weighs 8200 pounds leaving me with a payload of 3,300 pounds. And I have a DUALLY!! I think you will find even your 2500 pound estimate for your truck is extremely optimistic.

SuperGewl is right, you will be well over you GVWR for your truck when you load it all up for vacation. That 2200 pin weight is empty. On my last trailer I added 1,000 pounds to the pin when I loaded it. Take it to the scale to be sure. At least you will be making a informed decision to run overloaded. You may want to reconsider the trailer or truck.

Casey

 

Buzz,
I was quite amazed at how much heavier my truck was than expected. I think they weigh these things with helium filled ballons on them, before they put in the seats, etc. I top 8000 pounds when full of fuel and ready to hit the road.

 

I don't have an auxiliary tank, and my truck is a 2WD, but we still hit the road at 7680 lbs with driver, passenger, 2 Shelties and a full 35 gallons of fuel. Subtract that from 10,500 lbs GVWR, and we have a cargo capacity (or maximum pin weight) of 2,820 lbs. Our 5th wheel has a total weight of 13,500 lbs and a pin weight of 2,700 lbs, so we hit the road at 10,380 lbs GVW (10,500 lbs GVWR) and 21,180 lbs GCW (21,500 lbs GCWR).

Rusty

 

I recognize that the truck is probably over....but we know that its possible that the feds gave the limits on the truck for some obscure reason, even if the truck can haul more.

To me the largest question is TIRES. Its a SRW, right? Whats the load rating?

Wow rusty, your truck is heavy......my 98 quad cab 4x4 DRW is 7620 with me and my daughter and topped off on fuel. its a 5 speed.

 

One of the "strange" things I was asked when registering my truck up here was "how much does the truck weigh?". Dealer didn't know, so I took the beast through the scales. Came in at 3300 kilos (7260 pounds). That was just me and a half tank of fuel.

 

The extra weight of the NV5600 goes a long way toward offsetting the extra weight of the 4WD transfer case, driveshaft, front axle, etc. Besides, that weight was before my wife went on a diet and lost 70 lbs (hope she doesn't read this! ) The super-sized Shelties are worth another 70 lbs in total.

That's really my point - actual weights add up fast. It's not at all uncommon for our laden curb weights to be 1,000 to 1,500 lbs higher than Dodge's "curb weight" they use for payload and trailer towing capacity calculations. That's why the only safe way to determine truck capacity without exceeding manufacturer's ratings is to go to the scales and get a laden curb weight (LCW). With that, you can calculate:

Maximum payload or loaded trailer's pin/hitch weight = Truck's GVWR - LCW

Maximum total loaded trailer weight = Truck's GCWR - LCW

Rusty

 

Hey buzz...don't it say DWR?in your sig? ain't that Duel rear wheel?
My truck weighs 9k ready to go,and a 38' Arctic fox Toy hauler puts 2k down@ the pin,and the bears in the scale never blink twice...I'm commercial,so you know they'd put it to me if they could.

 

You would NEVER be overweight with a 2500 pound hitch weight. The Scale cops will look at your tires and i am betting they are around 3,000 pounds per tire. That would make you able to be around 12,000 pounds on the back axle alone. I personally have a 2500 Dodge, and when i haul my trailers from Indiana back to Canada, I am allowed to be 6,200 on my back axle, and i have single wheels. Also i am legally licenced and insured at 20,000 pounds. The scale patrol dont have time to look at stickers on a door that Dodge or any other company put there, as for the GCWR that all varies with gear ratio and trans, and that is just the manufacturers recomendations. The published payload on my 98 Dually is 5060 and i am sure the newer ones are higher than that. And before anyone says anything,, YES I HAVE been weighed many times on my 2500 , with the rear axle being around 6,200 pounds and never been fined for it, add that to the weight of the front axle of around 4,000 pounds and that makes me 10,200 pounds on my truck, well above the 8,800 GVW on the sticker. Plus scale cops are alot more worried about the big trucks, they dont have time to weigh all the rv camper people