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AirLiftCompany 04-24-2015 12:49 PM

Does your truck sag?
 
Just curious how many of you guys that are towing experience any sag while loaded.

CoastalDav 04-25-2015 09:56 AM

Use to sag a little with 3100 lbs of pin weight. Now 3150.

Installed the Air Lift 5000 kit a couple years ago. Level tow at 43-44 lbs air pressure.

Dave

AirLiftCompany 04-27-2015 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by CoastalDav (Post 3274111)
Use to sag a little with 3100 lbs of pin weight. Now 3150.

Installed the Air Lift 5000 kit a couple years ago. Level tow at 43-44 lbs air pressure.

Dave

Thanks for the feedback!

Busboy 04-27-2015 01:33 PM

I don't normally tow with full waste tanks but occasionally I have to, I have noticed that with the rear axle weight at 80 lbs still to the good the truck is almost level but being it's designed to be nose down when not loaded I find that if driving at night I get flashed occasionally so have added air bags for this season, that way I can adjust to the pin weight I'm carrying.

soulezoo 04-27-2015 02:11 PM

With all stock suspension (3500), the 1800lb pin weight would level the truck. Since I put on a leveling kit in the front (raises front of truck to level) I put on a Air Lift 5000 kit and am level again at 32-35 psi.

I didn't vote... because mine sags more like a 45 year old lady. [laugh]

KATOOM 04-28-2015 12:09 AM

I agree and was going to point out the missing variables in the pole..... [laugh] My truck has the 2" leveling kit so when I have my 5th wheel hooked up and the truck is setting down on the Timbrens, its not 100% level.....but pretty close.

AirLiftCompany 05-01-2015 09:49 AM

Haha thanks guys, I know there are a bunch of variables that are not pointed out in my question.

I was not looking for exact details, just looking for an overall thought on sag.

johnny5.9 05-09-2015 03:34 PM

I had a mean sag going the other day hauling about a little over 4'600# in the bed. My factory height 2wd "low rider" had the mud flaps dragging a little and I ripped one off backing up a slight lip. Needless to say, I was very irritated. Was going to put air bags in it like my previous truck but these two wheel drives sit so low that I don't have the frame to axle clearance for the kit to fit. So stupid. I don't know why they make these trucks so low. I'm also too low to run a drop hitch so when my tailgate is down it won't clear the trailer jack. It's a royal pain in the @$#. Guess it's helwig springs for me. :/

Argo 05-09-2015 05:28 PM

I sag a bit with my slide in camper, I was just looking at your system.

I have 6" lift blocks on the rear, will your air ride work with this set up?

AirLiftCompany 05-11-2015 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by johnny5.9 (Post 3275326)
I had a mean sag going the other day hauling about a little over 4'600# in the bed. My factory height 2wd "low rider" had the mud flaps dragging a little and I ripped one off backing up a slight lip. Needless to say, I was very irritated. Was going to put air bags in it like my previous truck but these two wheel drives sit so low that I don't have the frame to axle clearance for the kit to fit. So stupid. I don't know why they make these trucks so low. I'm also too low to run a drop hitch so when my tailgate is down it won't clear the trailer jack. It's a royal pain in the @$#. Guess it's helwig springs for me. :/

I have not seen an issue with our bags NOT working on a factory height 2wd. If you cannot use bags you may want to take a look at our AirCell product. AirCell: Static Load Support from Air Lift | Air Lift Company - Tow and Haul with Safety and Comfort

AirLiftCompany 05-11-2015 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Argo (Post 3275328)
I sag a bit with my slide in camper, I was just looking at your system.

I have 6" lift blocks on the rear, will your air ride work with this set up?


Yes our kits will work with a 6" lift. You just need to add in our Lock-N_Lift spacers. Lock-N-Lift; Air Spring Spacer | Air Lift Company - Tow and Haul with Safety and Comfort

jrs_dodge_diesel 05-14-2015 08:47 AM

Nice and level with our camper hooked up. My truck was built with the "camper specail" package that has extra leaf springs and a rear axle sway bar.

gorms 05-14-2015 09:52 PM

I never had the rear end looking like it was sagging with the factory overloads, but the springs did sag over time. I was almost on the overloads empty, about 1 1/2" away after many, many heavy loads. After installing bags I can throw over 2 tons in the back and still be away from the overloads. Makes for a pretty nice ride considering the weight.

KATOOM 05-15-2015 09:28 AM

I think most of the "sagging" concerns are a result of what a truck looks like with a load and the leveling kits. Pickup trucks characteristically have that "stinkbug" approach with the bed setting much higher than the front so that when its loaded it will rest down to a more level look. But not wanting that look all the time, people (like me) will install 2" leveling kits on the front to bring the front up more to the rear. Nominal loads will be fine but resting things in the back like a 5th wheel can make it look saggy even though its not.


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