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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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I think Titans are made by Carlisle or Kenda. Can't remember which. I have been wrong before, but I remember last spring when I was looking for tires, I considered Titans but thet were a re-brand.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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Are you saying that the DOT is looking for "ST" tires? What are they going to do with these tires that came on my 5th wheel - the trailer specific Goodyear Unisteel G614 RST? This is an all-steel, G-rated (3750 lbs @ 110 PSIG) radial that comes in only one size - LT235/85R-16. See HERE.

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From Carlisle website: An "LT" designation on a trailer tire size specifies load range only. It is not designed for use on light trucks.
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Lost Lake
From Carlisle website: An "LT" designation on a trailer tire size specifies load range only. It is not designed for use on light trucks.
Which was exactly my point - the Goodyear G614 RST is trailer-specific but only comes in size LT235/85R-16G.

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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Can you tell me where you got "who made Titans" , I'm just about to order some and I thought they were made in Iowa by the Titan Tire Corp.
What I got from what I've been reading , Carlise and Good Year are one and
the same and Denmans , which are my 2nd choice are made in Mexico.
thanks
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Guys, the small 15 tires for trailers are rated as ST(special trailer). They are stronger than P rated tires. And yes ST are required on small trailers!
I run an inspection shop and car tires will not pass!
When you get bigger, 16" up. The LT rated are (light truck) tires and are the same thing as trailer rated tires! When you are towing and hauling you should be using E-rated LT tires! or ST tires on small trailers.
All Dodge diesel must have E-rated tires to pass inspection! If you can't afford the correct tires for your truck/trailer, please get a cheap car.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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Friends who race and own a tire store recommended and installed LT235/85R16 Load range E on my 26' Pace.

As for Carlisle, I ran 225/15 Load Range D radials (trailer tires) on my dual axle open trailer and never had one wear out. They always blew with quite a bit of tread left! Never had any unusual pattern of problems with any other brand even though I ran the same pressures and checked them regularly. Used that trailer from 1988 till early this year, so I was able to compare lots of tires. Goodyears in that size have been the next most complained about trailer tire I've heard about in the racing community. That's why I went with 6,000# axles and 16" tires on my enclosed trailer even though I never expect to have it weigh more than 10,000k.

Passenger car 225/15R seem to have a thinner sidewall. While I did use them on a few occasions, I don't think it's a good idea and believe they didn't fare much better than the Carlisle trailer tires.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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If you are loading anywhere to max, the G614 is a very poor tire that only sells because it is the only game in town. they blow the sidewall out on any hot day. If you run them and have trouble, get 19.5 wheels made and run 225 19.5 tires that have a lower rating but will last and last. I average 23,000 on three 7000 pound axles, the g159 would blow one tire a trip, the current 19.5 tires have over 50,000 on them and are easy to purchase used.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Haulin_in_Dixie
If you are loading anywhere to max, the G614 is a very poor tire that only sells because it is the only game in town. they blow the sidewall out on any hot day.
Quite interesting. Our 16K GVWR 5th wheel below came with the G614 RSTs and has made many trips at Interstate speeds in Texas summers (ambient temps over 100 degF), went from Houston to Sevierville, TN last July (the overhead thermometer in the truck was reading 106 degF going across I-40 between Little Rock and Memphis) and has never had a tire failure. In my experience, the G614 has been just as reliable as the E-rated Michelin XPS Ribs I used on a previous (lighter) 5th wheel.

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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Robert373
Can you tell me where you got "who made Titans" , I'm just about to order some and I thought they were made in Iowa by the Titan Tire Corp.
What I got from what I've been reading , Carlise and Good Year are one and
the same and Denmans , which are my 2nd choice are made in Mexico.
thanks
I had a look around for that info, and could not find it. I thought they were made by Carlisle, the internet can be misleading. I probably should have had better info before posting. My appologies if I am wrong.

I understand that Greenball Towmasters are made by Goodyear here in Canada. That information I got from the guy at the local tire shop, and that info. has been confirmed by a number of different sources on Rv.net
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyJC
Quite interesting. Our 16K GVWR 5th wheel below came with the G614 RSTs and has made many trips at Interstate speeds in Texas summers (ambient temps over 100 degF), went from Houston to Sevierville, TN last July (the overhead thermometer in the truck was reading 106 degF going across I-40 between Little Rock and Memphis) and has never had a tire failure. In my experience, the G614 has been just as reliable as the E-rated Michelin XPS Ribs I used on a previous (lighter) 5th wheel.

Rusty
You are not loading them as heavy as I did.
Glad they work for you. In the first half of last summer I blew ten or twelve of them. Put the 19.5 on and have had no tire problems since then. They will not carry the rated weight on 500 mile trips. Ask any trailer dealer.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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So OK tire guru's, I just picked up a lightweight 5er. I have no idea how old the tires are so I am going to replace them. The current tire is a 205-75-15, I cannot see any indication that they are trailer rated. I know little about the tire numbers and what they mean. If I go to a 215-75-15 or a 225-75-15 does that mean I will be putting on a taller tire? The wheel has a 5-bolt pattern, I did not measure it, so I don't know if I can go to 16's or if I even need to. I would just like to go a little taller and have the correct type of tire. What do you guys recommend?

By the way, the NM DOT and their roadside checks CAN be a PITA. I got stopped in one between Alamogordo and Tularosa NM recently. I was pulling my flatbed GN, titled for 16K. They checked lights on BOTH the truck and trailer, tires on the trailer, dipped the fuel, you name it. They also expected me to have a flashlight, first aid kit, 2 sets of reflectors, fire extinguisher, and a fuel log book or receipts at minimum. Since I am not a commercial vehicle I thought this was a little much. I did have all the stuff they wanted to see in my 'tractor'. It seems diesels registered in NM are considered 'tractors', says it on my registration too. The DOT expects us to meet some of the commercial requirements. Oh, and by the way, the State Trooper told me that we will be having to get physicals to drive our tractors when towing greater than 12K in the near future. Something about us getting letters regarding this after June 30th this year? New laws and new specs go into effect in/on July 1st and then January 1st. This is supposed to be a nation-wide bunch of changes. That left me with a REAL WARM FUZZY FEELING. The gal at my local DOT/License office did confirm that NM (along with other states) will be requiring some kind of license endorsement like CA for towing 5ers, TT's, horse trailers, flatbeds, etc with our diesel trucks. I asked her about the 'tractor' designation and she told me that it has always been the way a diesel has been viewed but not really enforced with regards to all the junk in the cab, etc. I forget what state it is, but the diesel engines presented a problem when they were put in cars. Whatever that state is, their laws were changed to call a 'tractor' a diesel engine with over 4 cylinders. Something tells me we are about to see a lot of trucks on the side of the road going through all of this stuff, all across America. I believe we can blame the Homeland Security Acts on this up-and-coming mess, there IS things about this IN the HS Acts.

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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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Interseting, I better stop in the one South of Vado(without tralier) and ask some questions.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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And in Alabama, the headline in the paper a few days ago was Legislature to ease truck laws. Seems there is a bill in the works to get all trucks below 26,000 listed as non commercial. I doubt that it will pass, but still, a little different from the NM thing.

I have heard of no such thing any other place.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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Was told by NM DOT today that a 1 ton Dodge diesel is concidered by them to be a "big rig". We are required to carry everything expected in a big tractor. Including fire extinguisher, first aid kit, triangles, etc.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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CD in NM,

On my Nash 25' TT, I had Goodyear Marathon 205/75/15-C tires (stock). I upgraded to the Greenball Towmaster 225/75/15-D's with no problems with fitment. They actually look like a better fit than the 205's. Three of my friends have done the same thing with their trailers, also. None of us have had any problems with the upgrade.

I can confirm that the Towmasters are actually made by Goodyear in Canada. They go down the same assembly line with the only change being the name on the sides of the tires. This was confirmed, by phone, by both Goodyear & Greenball.

BTW, very interesting information about what is considered a "Big Truck" in NM. Thanks for the info. Does anyone know if 'out of state' trucks require all the things that 'in-state' trucks do, such as triangle reflectors, first aid kits, etc. Thanks.

Joe F.(Buffalo)
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