[quote author=John_P link=board=7;threadid=15105;start=0#142810 date=1054088804]<br>J.R.:<br><br>Heh buddy, what happened to the twins????<br><br>------<br>John_P<br>[/quote]<br><br>Im still in R&amp;D mode. <br><br>J.R.

 

[quote author=J.R. Adkins link=board=7;threadid=15105;start=0#142790 date=1054087034]<br>[quote author=BULLWAGON link=board=7;threadid=15105;start=0#142700 date=1054075866]<br>Hey JR, if that didn't come from Piers or Kurt I would watch it...they're the only people that know how to build chargers....LMAO<br>[/quote]<br><br>Joe you aint right!! These are the ONLY turbos that I havent blown up!!! 8)<br><br>HG,<br>Im seriously thinking bout it. ;D<br><br><br>J.R.<br><br><br>[/quote]<br>How much did that turbo you have in the pic cost. I'm split between one big turbo or a small set of twins. I would like to do it the cheapet way. I have an Idea for and ht3b/hx35 but what size is an H2e or the turbo J/R has in the pic?<br>Thanks<br>DM01

 

DM01<br><br> The big single in the picture is VERY impressive. It is quite a bit larger than a H2e and has a NO lag!! There is a PM coming your way.<br><br>J.R.

 

Can some one post a list may be of what are known as useable turbos? both singles and twins and the approxiamate hp range if the maps are not available?<br><br>No offence but so far I have no idea what an h2e is, or where it falls in line in hx35, pdr40, hx50....<br><br>Someone said that there are so many they are hard to count? And so far Im not having trouble counting to 5? What am I missing?<br><br>Does an hx40 use a 40 millimeter compressor wheel? If not what size does it use? <br><br>

 

[quote author=1320 link=board=7;threadid=15105;start=15#143011 date=1054135081]<br>Can some one post a list may be of what are known as useable turbos? both singles and twins and the approxiamate hp range if the maps are not available?<br><br>No offence but so far I have no idea what an h2e is, or where it falls in line in hx35, pdr40, hx50....<br><br>Someone said that there are so many they are hard to count? And so far Im not having trouble counting to 5? What am I missing?<br><br>Does an hx40 use a 40 millimeter compressor wheel? If not what size does it use? <br><br><br>[/quote]<br>There might not be a whole lot of turbos but the turbos we have there are many different combinations. different housings and shafts wheels bearings all kinds of stuff.<br>DM01

 

I will have several chargers large to small for sale at Muncie. Along with alot of other B performance parts. And maybe even an innovative head or two.

 

[quote author=BULLWAGON link=board=7;threadid=15105;start=15#143082 date=1054145150]<br>I will have several chargers large to small for sale at Muncie. Along with alot of other B performance parts. And maybe even an innovative head or two. <br>[/quote]<br>I call first pick. <br>DM01

 

Here's a quick question. I'm tossing the idea around bout putting the HX35/12cm turbo on my truck. Nothing special. Just the one from the 5 speed trucks. I was just curious if there really is any benefit of doing this. I don't have a problem with EGT's (1000 pre turbo max in 80 or so degree weather). And spool up is great. I was wondering if the HX35 could support more boost safely without fear of overspeeding the turbine and raising EGT's. It should be a direct bolt on, right?

 

[quote author=BigBlue link=board=7;threadid=15105;start=15#143168 date=1054158938]<br>Here's a quick question. I'm tossing the idea around bout putting the HX35/12cm turbo on my truck. Nothing special. Just the one from the 5 speed trucks. I was just curious if there really is any benefit of doing this. I don't have a problem with EGT's (1000 pre turbo max in 80 or so degree weather). And spool up is great. I was wondering if the HX35 could support more boost safely without fear of overspeeding the turbine and raising EGT's. It should be a direct bolt on, right?<br>[/quote]<br><br>your talking about switching from a Hy35 to an HX35? If that is the case i can speak from experance. It is a decent swap if you plan on staying on that level of power for a while, or not. If you have an idea of where you want to be, and it does not involve an HX35, and is comming within the next 6 months, then forget it. Not too much to be had from the swap.<br><br> <br><br>Andrew

 

You know what my plans are but that won't be happening for a while. At least not for another 2 or so years. So I was thinking that for a while, it might be worth it. Once I get the tranny in, I'll be able to use the comp to the max but that will be it for a while. Besides, isn't the HX35 with a larger exhaust housing on it a good small turbo for a twins setup?

 

Call PDR.<br><br><br>I'm to understand that the HY is a 9cm housing which is good to around 30psi safely and the HX is 12cm housing which is good to around 40 psi safely. Then they start building heat. If you not having EGT trouble and you not sure which direction you want to be going in modifications then hold out. You might want to get a cool aftermarket one later.

 

I plan on running 12's with twins. From what I've read, you can use an HX35 with like a 16 housing on it and an HT3B. So I figure that if I already have the HX35 now, all I'll have to do later on down the road is upgrade the exhaust housing, right? I only push 30 psi right now, but I'd like a little more of a safety blanket. Knowing that I'm maxing my lil' HY out at 30 psi and running that constantly (I'm usually around 25 psi whenever I accelerate)I just don't like it. I'd like to have a little bit of room to play with. Other than that, I'm dying to work on my truck again.

 

[quote author=BigBlue link=board=7;threadid=15105;start=15#143478 date=1054226216]<br>I plan on running 12's with twins. From what I've read, you can use an HX35 with like a 16 housing on it and an HT3B. So I figure that if I already have the HX35 now, all I'll have to do later on down the road is upgrade the exhaust housing, right? I only push 30 psi right now, but I'd like a little more of a safety blanket. Knowing that I'm maxing my lil' HY out at 30 psi and running that constantly (I'm usually around 25 psi whenever I accelerate)I just don't like it. I'd like to have a little bit of room to play with. Other than that, I'm dying to work on my truck again. <br>[/quote]<br><br><br>It's not a bad step to take, going from the hy35 to hx35, but if you plan on high hp and 12's in the 1/4 I would use a larger small turbo JMHO. A hx35 will work well with a larger housing for twins along with a HT3B but I think in two years time the hp bar will be even higher and egt's will be something to contend with. If you can get one cheap (hx35/12) then go for it and your egt's will definately be better when using the comp box. You can always sell it later for a bigger single or twins. You might also ask a few people running a 35/3B combo and see what they think of it and what their temps are like.

 

[quote author=1320 link=board=7;threadid=15105;start=15#143011 date=1054135081]<br>Someone said that there are so many they are hard to count? And so far Im not having trouble counting to 5? What am I missing?<br>[/quote]<br><br>Its actually not so much the number of turbos that are being used, but the sheer number of people who are building them and the hybrids thereof. I'll try to give you a brief rundown of whats available and what we use as our guidelines around here:<br><br>HX35 - The stocker unit. Tough little critter, and available with housings between 12 and 16, wasted and non-wasted. We don't like seeing an HX35, even any of the modified or hybrids, on trucks over 350 HP.<br><br>HX40 - A bit of an upgrade to the '35. They'll move a decent amount of air, but tend to be fragile over 38 PSI of boost, unless you're running one of the hybrids (with an HX35 turbine housing, you can drive these units to substantial boost levels, however all you're doing is beating the air. The compressor pretty much runs out of steam at 38 - 40 PSI). These are available with anything between a 14cm to a 20cm turbine housing. I don't like seeing HX40s on anything over 400 HP, as its our feeling that EGTs can not be controlled adequately.<br><br>HX50 - A substantial turbocharger, and probably about as big as you could go with a single and still be semi-drivable. We haven't had any personal experience with them, however they are fragile units. I've got real cooling or HP data.<br><br>B1 - A schwitzer hybrid turbo from Kurt Yardley. Personally, I feel this turbo is the absolute best single you can run on a truck and maintain driveable manners. The B1 is available with a whole mess of housings and turbine wheels to tailor the turbo to each specific truck. The B1 is well known for its toughness, and the new B wheels with the KwikSpool housings are giving us HX35 arena spool-up, while maintaining top-end cooling when installed in concert with an external waste. We're running these on several 500 HP class trucks, and cooling is up to the task, although once you're over the 525 or so level, you likely should be looking to twins.<br><br>FYI: I am a Yardley distributor, so approach what I say with a grain of salt. Also keep in mind that we've had the opportunity to sell other turbos here, and turned them down in favor of the B and K series turbos.<br><br>K.45 - A new Schwitzer hybrid from Kurt Yardley's asylum in New Mexico Not alot of trucks out there with this critter on them yet. Its targetted to the 500 pony and down crowd. Its using a smaller shaft than the B1 series, while its compressor side is close to same size as the B1. The K.45 turbine wheel is also significantly meatier than a comaprable Holset, so while the K.45 may not be as tough as a B1, it'll still be tougher than a Holset HX series.<br><br>H2E - An older Holset turbo. These things are tough critters, but difficult to convince to spool up. We don't have any experience with H2Es around here, however I believe they are a hair smaller than an HX50.<br><br>I think this gives you a pretty good run-down and whats available out there. Like I said, in addition to the actual turbos themselves, there are a whole schwack of guys modifying them to alter their characteristics. Yardley, Pius, Piers, Scheid, Mitchell, JR Adkins, City and the list goes on and on. Each of their hybrids will behave differently on a given truck, and your best bet is check through the archives at the various turbo threads. Theres probably only enough reading to keep you busy for a month or two <br><br>Rod

 

you can have any turbo as long as cheap never pops out. I don't think cost effective comes to mine either but hey you hopefully get what you pay for.<br>Common 35 hang in there only 40psi and 1500degreese you can handle it :'(.<br><br>DM01