Karl,
If you have any vibs with new tires that were road force balanced and with in spec. you must have another problem. The beads will not fix any problem but out of balance tires. What is the highest number of road force of your tires? I wouldn't run any with over 10 lbs. What was the limit for your size?

 

I'm not sure what the highest number is or what the limit was. Does that show on the machine or something?

 

what is road force balanced????
jman

 

It's a special type of balancing that applies pressure to the tire by a small cylinder shaped drum while the tire is spining on the machine to get the truest reading for balancing, runout, etc. Check out this link for a better description.

 

The Hunter balancer gives you a computer print out of each tire.

 

Thanks Rick. I'm going to go back today and have them put the tires back on the machine to see what they show. I may give BFG a call to see what amount of road force is considered "within spec" as well.

Thanks for the advice.

 

Well I finally ordered a set of these balancing beads for each car, I hope they work as well as I read here. I seem to have a problem keeping wheel weights on the wheels, so I'll soon be free from their issues. If they work well enough in my Talon I'll get some more for some other vehicles/ tire sets.

 

Well I installed them, they do help but I think my root problem is that the tires are somewhat flat spotted. It was at the point before at almost any speed the wheel shook, at about 63mph it was either gun it or hit the brakes. Well after the balance beads I feel a vibration in the steering wheel lesser than what my sub makes at times, and around 63mph it shakes just a little bit. Figuring how out of round they feel at 5mph the balance beads are working very well. Test number two will be when I take my MB for a short drive, the Michelin's were almost perfect before (one wheel required 0oz of weight on the spinner, he spun it twice) but I expect perfection now.

 

If you want perfection get them trued. Weights will not correct for an out of round tire and they all are to some degree.

 

I just put beads in my Maxis mud tires. I love them. I had them same problem with keeping the weights on the wheel. I'm going to put them in my all-season tires also.

-Kyle

 

I doubt I'll need to for the Michelin's they are a high quality tire mounted on a very high quality rim so roundness shouldn't be an issue unlike the POS tires on the talon (winter set) that are flat spotted and no named.

 

this is not true, Michelin's also need truing.

 

This is true, it won't be 100.000% perfect, but I'll gladly settle for 99.5% The Goodyears that were on there must have been oval or something, didn't even hit half of their tread life but the sidewall was puckering and the tire was way out of round (visibly!).

Since I'm already talking () about out of round tires, I have a reference point for Wally World (and Goodyear) in the future. They "dismounted" and balanced the tire for me for $15 when I told them they were failing. There was absolutely no evidence of being dismounted, the dirt was still on the lip of the rim & tire, even with a recipt showing mileage and all they basically told me to go F myself and took my money. His exact words were "wow you got a good deal we normally charge more to balance tires." I reply, well I just had them rebalanced less than a thousand miles ago.... The least I can do for them is return the favor....

 

I will repeat this again. If you want a smooth front end, get the front tires trued. Don't matter who makes them. The slightest out of round will wear more and more.

All radials are made the same and there are defects, some more than others. You want it smooth, get them cut. I run Michilins and have them cut for the front. As a matter of fact, the worse out of round tire I had was a Michelin. These are $200 plus tires.

I think you missed the point, a mold will not make a true tire.

 

From what I'm told Michelin's passenger tires have some of the highest standards, as are my Mercedes rims (good tires on so-so rims is no good). What concerns me is if my tires are ever so slightly out of round and some tire guy mounts the rim less than perfectly on the machine, they will end up making a out of round condition that is basically non existent now into one. So I think it'd be best to live with whatever the balance beads can do (as the balancing machines are much less precise and set at only one speed). Now when I have some 315/70/17 BFG T/As I will without a doubt follow your advice, but with my Michelins on 14" rims I have a suspicion that they'd mess up more than they'd fix. Thanks for your suggestion.