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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Whats the point? You have 5 power settings available to you from the driver's seat via the Juice module. Drive around in setting 3 and when you want more tap the button and away you go. You paid extra for this feature why muck around?

I want to be able to drive around on 5x5 with the timing only for smoke and not to put strain on my VP but when I actually need the horse to race I want to have the wire tap on. Not to mention I dont wont the extra strain on the VP with just daily driving and the wire tap on. I want to run it in EZ so hopefully I dont have to buy another VP
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Unless you are driving around with the pedal to the floor all the time, you're not gonna strain your pump anymore running it at 5x5. Maybe if your pump had 200k miles on it, it would harm it, but you've only got 5k on it. You're gonna smoke more on 5x5 than with the box off, with or without the added timing. And it is still only one button push away.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Unless you are driving around with the pedal to the floor all the time, you're not gonna strain your pump anymore running it at 5x5. Maybe if your pump had 200k miles on it, it would harm it, but you've only got 5k on it. You're gonna smoke more on 5x5 than with the box off, with or without the added timing. And it is still only one button push away.
So your saying driving on 5x5 w/ the wire tapped isnt putting strain on the VP?????????????????????
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jriggs_18
So your saying driving on 5x5 w/ the wire tapped isnt putting strain on the VP?????????????????????
It depends on how you're using it... under normal driving conditions, I doubt the Comp is adding much fuel over stock parameters.... When you mash the go fast pedal, that's when the electronics start adding fuel to the fire and you strain the VP.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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smoke=fuel=wire tapped.

thats how they get it to smoke and make more power...by adding FUEL=smoke.....

it aint magic stuff...where did you think the smoke comes from....
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dieselbeef
smoke=fuel=wire tapped.

thats how they get it to smoke and make more power...by adding FUEL=smoke.....

it aint magic stuff...where did you think the smoke comes from....

Ok let me explain this again, and try to stay with me here......I want to be able to drive around on 5x5 IN EZ MODE so I can still have smoke but not strain my VP, then I want to be able to, (at the flip of a switch) be able to have the Wire tap work in case i need to race or something stupid like that. make sense?
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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I you hook it up like your suppose to and run it one level 1 thats Ez mode and you cant get alot of smoke and still be in EZ mode, being on level 5 and have no comunication with the wire taped pump with your switch off is gonna do nothing. It has to make the pump cycle more which adds more fuel which = smoke. So without the pump connection it's not gonna smoke. And what your tryin to do is not gonna work
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jriggs_18
Ok let me explain this again, and try to stay with me here......I want to be able to drive around on 5x5 IN EZ MODE so I can still have smoke but not strain my VP, then I want to be able to, (at the flip of a switch) be able to have the Wire tap work in case i need to race or something stupid like that. make sense?
This is kind of how I do it with my EZ. I drive around mostly on injectors only using the EZ as a boost fooler. When I want to pass someone or need a little extra grunt, flip the EZ "on" and give her! Pull back in to traffic and switch it "off". On or off, I get some good smoke to boot

I know what your trying to do and don't see why switching the tap wire wouldn't work. It is no different than tapping or un-tapping the wire. I've never dealt with a Comp so I may be missing something, sorry if I am. I agree though that unless your really hammering on your truck, you won't be stressing the VP.

Jeff
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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I you hook it up like your suppose to and run it one level 1 thats Ez mode and you cant get alot of smoke and still be in EZ mode, being on level 5 and have no comunication with the wire taped pump with your switch off is gonna do nothing. It has to make the pump cycle more which adds more fuel which = smoke. So without the pump connection it's not gonna smoke. And what your tryin to do is not gonna work
Sorry, but in EZ mode on level 5 i get way more smoke than on level 1-EZ mode, and I do get alot of smoke in EZ mode on 5x5, ive had this juice for about a year now, i ran it tapped until it killed my VP then with the new VP i tapped it for about a month then decided i wasnt in the position where I could afford a pump so I untapped it. Im going to put it on a relay and see what happens.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jriggs_18
Sorry, but in EZ mode on level 5 i get way more smoke than on level 1-EZ mode, and I do get alot of smoke in EZ mode on 5x5, ive had this juice for about a year now, i ran it tapped until it killed my VP then with the new VP i tapped it for about a month then decided i wasnt in the position where I could afford a pump so I untapped it. Im going to put it on a relay and see what happens.
Maybe a Juice is different, I was thinkin of a comp
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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A good number of the IP failures from a comp are due to old pumps. They were on there way out anyway. I don't see how the edge in normal operation is gonna strain the IP electonics more (seems the general consensus is that they become brittle due to the heat, and will crack due to heat cycling), and your pump internals are in good condition, so proper clearances would be there, without pitting/grooves on mating surfaces. If you want smoke, unplug the MAP sensor, and run it on level 1. Then turn it to 5 when you want to play. Or just leave it on 5 and drive with it there. I don't see the point in having the smoke, and none of the power. All bark and no bite!
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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A good number of the IP failures from a comp are due to old pumps. They were on there way out anyway. I don't see how the edge in normal operation is gonna strain the IP electonics more (seems the general consensus is that they become brittle due to the heat, and will crack due to heat cycling), and your pump internals are in good condition, so proper clearances would be there, without pitting/grooves on mating surfaces. If you want smoke, unplug the MAP sensor, and run it on level 1. Then turn it to 5 when you want to play. Or just leave it on 5 and drive with it there. I don't see the point in having the smoke, and none of the power. All bark and no bite!

If I unplug the map sensor itll smoke good and run fine for 2 maybe 3 days then I lose all power and a CEL. Anyhow I got the relay all hooked up and when I flipped the switch the wire tap started working OK, but when I turned the switch off it stayed like the wire tap was still working and I checked and there was no continuity on the relay so I know its not a wiring problem, but I dont understand why it would stay like that, I tried shutting off and restarting but it didnt work, I guess I will see in the morning if it is back in EZ mode yet
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Anyone out their correct me if I am wrong. I have the EZ pulse wich is the predicesor of the comp you have to open the box up to change the power settings. Now If you un plug the map sensor in EZ you get max fuel and no timing wich puts large strains on the mech. side of the pump but if you keep good inlet pressure you should be O.K. But why If your going to burn the fuel feel the power while the gauge moves left. As far as putting in a switch for your tap; wire ads resistance switches ad resistance and the give you a dirty signal if you look at the signal through an oscope you could see this very smart people figure out this elect. stuff when you start trying to fool componets that are fooling componets bad things happen. So I suggest hooking it up wright and using it the way it was designed. [B]BUT THIS IS ALL JUST A SUGGESTION[B]
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Old May 1, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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BTW this is working great for me, I have it setup on a relay and can drive around all day on 5x5 timing only then if need be switch to the timing and fueling mode, thank god it did work because the powerjoke woulda got me the other nite, but he didnt
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Old May 2, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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the first level is the timing on say..5x5. the second is the fuel addition. so if yer runnin it on 5x5 and just turning off the fuel sel on the back of the pump? i dont get it. you have never talked to edge about how this comp box works have you. it sends more power to the fueling sel on the back of the ip. thtas the wire that you are tappin. runnin it on 5x1 is the same thing and youll noitce little smoke..til ya turn it to 5x5...???? cuz it sends more duration of opening to the fuel sel. all yer doin is makin it skip the levels in the box
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