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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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It would be nice if it offered some features that aren't available on the market just yet, such as a high-power version for the 305/555 trucks. I guess time will tell! I remain hopeful!

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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Will this add additional fuel or do you have to
tap the pump wire to get any additional fueling
above stock levels?
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dieselcamper
Will this add additional fuel or do you have to
tap the pump wire to get any additional fueling
above stock levels?
No, there are no hardware changes or associated wiring - it is strictly some software tha allows for remapping of the ECM - really cool stuff. This is awesome, to have the features of the MAD ECM available in a programmer instead of an ECM swap.....and the ability to download and update!! I steered clear of the MAD ECM because it was not practical for me mainly because of emissions reasons, to swap ECM's, but this changes everything!! Man, I really hope this will be "stackable" with the Comp! Anyone have a clue on pricing?
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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Man, I really hope this will be "stackable" with the Comp! Anyone have a clue on pricing?

That's what I want to know, Pricing?
Even a rough EST would be great.

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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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i want a price as well because i already have a $1400 turbo set up to buy, and was going to do the drag comp upgrade but i may keep the regular comp and stack on the smarty
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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posting of prices are not allowed on the board
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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this is true, better jump over here for a min and check it out.
http://www.thedieselgarage.com/forum...ead.php?t=5984

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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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Just when I was saving for a Catcher ECM....
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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I'd expect that this unit makes about the same power overall as the ECMs did. You just get a LOT more flavors to choose from, instead of the take-it-or-leave it original.
I would have to agree I can't seen them leaving to much on the table the first time, I think the swing vote is going to be the price.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Ok fair enough. How about a rundown of the power levels. I assume 9 is like the mad ecm and 1 is a defuel. How mild is the lower setting and how wild are the top?
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dieselcamper
Will this add additional fuel or do you have to
tap the pump wire to get any additional fueling
above stock levels?

My understanding is that the ECM (and also the new Smarty thingy) are programmed to get as much fuel as the VP44 can deliver in one injection pulse.

This will be higher than the stock fueling limit, and this is more fuel than an EZ or something similar can deliver. But not by much.

However, you STILL need to have some kind of fueling box that delivers the second injection pulse in order to get the big fueling.

Personally, I'd rather drain the plungers in one event, as the second pulse seems to cause big EGT because it's so late.

I'd assume that some of the software versions are designed to complement the existing fueling boxes like a Comp or TST box. That's what I'd do, anyway.

Until we start to get some feedback from people who actually try these things in different combos, we're all just anxiously speculating.

jh
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 10:16 PM
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So this thing is going to have a LCD touch screen right????
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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So will the smarty have both versions (with & without timing)? What about the other 8 settings, just different power levels?
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Their official website has been updated, many FAQ's, and pricing has been added.

http://www.madselectronics.com/index.html

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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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The FAQ says it adds the most power when combined with a wire tapping fueling box that doesn't add timing. I am new to this Cummins stuff, so what box would fit that description? Does a Comp add timing or is it just a fueling box. I have been following the Catcher threads, and am very interested in the new version. I just bought an 01 SO and am ready to do some mods, I am going to order gauges and exhuast and a FASS next week, and I was going to get a comp too, but don't want to if it won't work well with the new Catcher. Basically my question is would a box (which one?), the new Catcher, a FASS, exhaust and intake, and maybe some 275s be a good daily driver combo? Guess I'll probably need a clutch too. Sorry for the long post and hijack.
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