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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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H.I.D. Headlights

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I love the look and especially the visibilty of H.I.D. headlights. But unfortunately even with the expensive bulbs it not nearly as bright as I would like. Is this kit all that is really needed to have that "blue" light and superior visibility? If it isn't then what is it lacking? Has anyone here had any experience with these? Thanks!
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 01:35 AM
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No experience with them, though I have some doubts... On the other hand, it's hard to argue with 2000+ positive feedbacks vs. a dozen negative.

It appears this kit only replaces the actual bulb. If your lenses are yellowed and old, then brighter bulbs may help - but they're not gonna fix it all.

If you decide to do them post some feedback.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by kycatpower
No experience with them, though I have some doubts... On the other hand, it's hard to argue with 2000+ positive feedbacks vs. a dozen negative.

It appears this kit only replaces the actual bulb. If your lenses are yellowed and old, then brighter bulbs may help - but they're not gonna fix it all.

If you decide to do them post some feedback.
If you have doubts, why not list them...

I have no doubt they will be much brighter than any filament bulb made. Lighting has come a long way since Edison, so why use his bulbs. I run a 6000K HID on my motorcycle because the output of the stock was crappy. I would say it improved light output by 3x.

5000k is generally considered pure white and is the brightest bulb you can get. The higher Kelvin bulbs from there begin to turn bluish and finally purple. Every step up in Kelvin from 5000 reduces the brightness of the light output.

Probably the next thing I do is HID after I get my tranny in good shape.


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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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i have a set of 8000k and i love them
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Hid

I have 10k HIDs and they are the best light I have ever bought. No need to have doubts.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Im anxiously awaiting responses too...

One thing, some HID kits have hi/low beams, while most just have low beams...
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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For maximum improvement, I don't think a simple drop-in HID bulb conversion is the way to go. Our lenses are engineered to work with the halogen bulbs they came with, and from what I've heard, these HID bulbs simply create annoying glare. I thought they were actually banned from use on road. I have no actual experience with these conversions, so if anyone knows different, please correct me.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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I don't have stock headlights anymore, if you look in my gallery you can see my upgraded ones. I am really tempted to try these out... This kit would have 3600 right? (Is that what it means by lumen?) Whenever you other guys say you have 8k or 10k would that be a step up I assume? Where did you get your kits from? I would like to have some of the "blue" appereance since I think it looks cool, would this give it? Sorry I am pretty slow when it comes to lumen and this stuff, thanks!
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Muddin_dude06
I don't have stock headlights anymore, if you look in my gallery you can see my upgraded ones. I am really tempted to try these out... This kit would have 3600 right? (Is that what it means by lumen?) Whenever you other guys say you have 8k or 10k would that be a step up I assume? Where did you get your kits from? I would like to have some of the "blue" appereance since I think it looks cool, would this give it? Sorry I am pretty slow when it comes to lumen and this stuff, thanks!
No, the two numbers, as I see it, aren't related. Lumens are a measurement of light output, and "K" refers to temperature in degrees on the Kelvin scale, which relates directly to the color of the beam. The higher the K number, the bluer the light is what I've read.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by torquefan
For maximum improvement, I don't think a simple drop-in HID bulb conversion is the way to go. Our lenses are engineered to work with the halogen bulbs they came with, and from what I've heard, these HID bulbs simply create annoying glare. I thought they were actually banned from use on road. I have no actual experience with these conversions, so if anyone knows different, please correct me.
Afraid someone was going to say that...I guess, I should just look at the Sport Conversion...

Ever heard of anyone getting a ticket up here for HID's? There are sure a lot of people running around E town with them...
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by torquefan
No, the two numbers, as I see it, aren't related. Lumens are a measurement of light output, and "K" refers to temperature in degrees on the Kelvin scale, which relates directly to the color of the beam. The higher the K number, the bluer the light is what I've read.
You are correct, however the color begins to shift purple around 10k and higher. My motorcycle has lenses designed for incandecent bulbs, but the fact is that they were inadequate; just like our truck headlights. The lens of our trucks is designed to disperse light in a specific way, and a brighter source will only distribute more light in the same pattern. If you add a more lumens of light, you get better visibility at night.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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I don't like these weird ebay brands. The ballasts/bulbs burn up quick. I'd stick with OEM Philips, Osram, Matsushita, Bosch, etc... By the way, the visibility isn't going to increase much. Your reflector housing was not intended for HID. The beam pattern will suck. Maybe the Ram stock headlights suck so bad to begin with that you might see some difference. But with my Honda, the beam pattern had too many hotspots and it was driving me nuts. So I took them out and did a full retrofit with projectors. Now it's nice.

You can expect the ground to be a lot brighter, but as far as lighting distance, it shouldn't change much. If you want to see further down the road, why don't you aim your headlights up? Or put your highbeams on? That'll blind people just as well as these HID kits. Just don't pass a cop.

4300K is the brightest. Up to 6000k it's nice and bright with some color. After that it dims down a lot and you get more glare due to the higher energy wavelength light being emitted (more scatter). All BMW and such are 4300K. The blue color you see is from the projector, not the bulbs... Looks ricey to try to imitate that.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Afraid someone was going to say that...I guess, I should just look at the Sport Conversion...

Ever heard of anyone getting a ticket up here for HID's? There are sure a lot of people running around E town with them...
Nope, never heard of any tickets issued, I'll have to ask some of the local RCMP here. I'm with you on the Sport conversion, I'm sure toying with that too. Problem is, the OEM lamps are kinda pricy, and I'm a little nervous about getting aftermarket reproductions. They're cheaper, but I'm not sure the beam will be quite as good. I found that on my car with aftermarket headlamps- I replaced one with OEM and got a much nicer beam pattern. So I might just get a grille guard and mount a couple spot lights. That'll fix everything.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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I know for a fact HID kits are illegal as of Aug. 2004 (I think).

For aftermarket headlights, look for ones that are DOT approved. TYC is a good brand.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 02:02 AM
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The HID's as well as most of the "HID type" bulbs you can buy all say DOT approved....
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