Alright I know I should have done the clutch first but I am sorta new to diesels.
Anyway, I just added a Quadzilla Xillaraider to my 2001 Dodge Ram 6-speed but I can only use it in the first setting and a little in the second and almost none in the 3rd because of my clutch spinning. My question is can I just buy a new disk and have it installed or will I have to buy an entire clutch. And which kind. I am not interested in having something to hold 600+ hp
I just want something to hold the full potential of the Module at a good price.
Thanks

 

As far as I know you gotta go for the whole dang thing. When you're replacing the clutch, get your flywheel turned, and you'll be good to go. I just replaced mine a couple months ago with a SouthBend OFe, and I love it. It's rated for 450hp, and feels just like stock,...maybe slightly softer. It won't grab like an Fe though. I ordered it online for about $750, and had a friend help me install it. To have a shop do it was about $1600 all said and done.

Maybe I should ask....how much power do you want to hold onto?

-SFB

 

I only want to hold the quadzilla. I guess thats about 120 over stock at the rear wheels That is all I want. What is turning the flywheel?

 

It basically means getting the flywheel (the face that comes in contact with the clutch) machined to be true, or completely flat. It doesn't cost very much (maybe $50-80) depending on the place, but it gives your new clutch a good flat surface to start with. That in turn will also extend the life of your clutch. It's kinda like getting your brake rotors turned when you get a brake job. Same principle. I hope this helps.

-SFB

 

my south bend was $800, came w/ clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, throw-out bearing, and nice little key chain(that's the least they could do) and it's no punk. it can take alot of power

 

Oh yeah, an OFe will work very nicely with that, and leave you a little room to grow if you choose to do so.

-SFB

 

Buy a Valair clutch, they are much cheaper. Valair.com or search "clutch cummins" on ebay. A higher 3400# plate load clutch will hold just fine. It will run you 325 plus 20 shipping. I am running that identical clutch just with a slightly smaller center shaft hole that is specially adapted for 5 spd tranny's like mine. I cannot make this one slip so far. I just did a dyno the other day running nitro and i tickled 400 HP at the rear wheels. This is a good clutch kit.

 

Here is one on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-H...spagenameZWDVW

 

And if you are going to get bit by the hop up performance bug in the near future, buy Valair's OFE clutch = Organic/ Feramic facing. Most people who want room to grow go with the OFE = Organic/Feramic clutch because it is less grabby/chattery and slips a little so you are not so hard on all of your drive components. All feramic/ceramic clutches are grabby and are very hard on drive lines, transfer case and tranny.

 

I just looked at that eBay listing. Apparently that Valair will hold 375hp and 750ft-lb torque. With that Quadzilla it looks like you'll be right around 365hp. I would recommend something with a little more holding power just in case you decide to go bigger.

It's easy to say you only want one little thing, but it's a slippery slope. I got my first performance mods just a couple months ago, and I'm already craving more, though I don't think the wallet will take much more for now.

That Southbend OFe will hold 450hp and 1000 ft-lb torque. I know you're not getting close to that right now, but it will allow room for growth without having to buy twice. I got the OFe about 3 months ago on the recommendation of A LOT of people, and I'm completely happy with mine.

Just my .02

-SFB

 

I would higly recamend south bend clutch. They have the best costomer service around and a great product. I run an OFE in one truck and a double disk in the other. I'd suggest the OFE, you can get a weaker one but theprice differance isnt much and you wouldnt be able to add more power later. Try sending TOP at the DTR store a message for prices. Helps the website out and gets you a fair price on a good product.

 

Thank you guys for the help. I am thinking about South Bend "just in case"

 

Like I said, you can get higher performance Valair clutches as well. His clutches are just as good as South Bend. Just 200-400 less for basically the same quality. They run a big outfit in TX, and specialize in clutches just like south bend.

 

When I was shopping for clutches I had all but decided on a luk cermametallic clutch which is an upgraded clutch from the oem clutch manufacturer. Less than $600 shipped from dial-a-clutch,....

Then I met TiminVa and he made me an offer I couldn't refuse =P http://trediesel.com/

 

IMHO I would go with a trusted brand until this relatively new outfit is proven. I don't see anything on the Valair site about the cryo process. At the very least this tells me that the product is different in some respects than that Southbend clutch. I have known MANY people to go with a Southbend, and I have never heard any complaints. They have a very loyal following over at www.nwbombers.com.

I'm not biased against the Valair, but in favor of the Southbend. Nobody I've talked to has ever heard of it. At this point it's mainly a matter of going with a proven brand over an unproven one.

Also, according to the Valair site, their products are rebuilt, not new.

-SFB