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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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..here is their answer!!!!


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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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^^^ That's funny!
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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I think the runaway story Jack linked is flawed. All the video shows the Toyota and the police car sitting bumper to bumper and there is no, or very minor damage to either vehicle. I would think a vehicle slowed from 94 mph with another vehicle would sustain more than a scrub on the plastic bumper cover, especially after the driver reported that the brakes were shaking to bad to use. I also find it hard to believe that Toyota would build a vehicle that you could not manually shift out of gear. In any case, Toyota will be tied up in court for a minimum of 10 years, probably more.

The only positive thing I see from this is the positive PR for Ford. Someone finally built a car that is more dangerous than the exploding Pinto.
The way the article read, it doesn't even sound like they used the patrol car to slow the Prius down. It says they only put the patrol car in front as a "precautionary block". Apparently they were able to get it from 94 to 50 by pulling the emergency brake while going up an incline. Then when it got to 50, he shut the engine off. Kind of odd that he could shut the engine down at 50, but not earlier. What kind of safety system would prevent engine shutdown at 50 or below, but not above?
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by b.lee
simple fix for everyone here, don't buy toyotas! you shouldn't be anyways!
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You know, if you really don't want to buy anything not made in the U.S.A., then why did you buy a truck made in MEXICO?? Dodge name on it or not??
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rampage1967
You know, if you really don't want to buy anything not made in the U.S.A., then why did you buy a truck made in MEXICO?? Dodge name on it or not??
....That may not apply to his-might be made in St.Louis
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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Sad Toyo is having these problems...
What's really sad is how the ever more common big 3 problems get swept under the table, and a month of hiccups from Toyota gets the media in an uproar...

Still a firm believer that a diesel true heavy duty Toyota pickup will slow the Big 3 truck market to a standstill...
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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Kind of odd that he could shut the engine down at 50, but not earlier. What kind of safety system would prevent engine shutdown at 50 or below, but not above?
Can't get on TV by shutting it down when it initially took off. Nope you have to call 911, have the 911 operator tell you numerous times to shut it off, (told him to hold the button for 3 seconds), and or put it in neutral. I question whether the throttle actually stuck.

Here is a video of someone demonstrating that the car will shut down and go into neutral. Caution. Foul language, and Lots of it.

Yep, it's gone

Last edited by Totallyrad; Mar 12, 2010 at 10:16 AM. Reason: F-bombs in the video
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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Well this is just too much fun !! [IMG][/IMG]
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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bhaugen That link wont last long. That dude has a filthy mouth.The comments are just as bad. You may want to delete the link.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 01:28 AM
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LOL!!! That link is awesome!! But, Yes, wont last long.
I do agree with that guy though, Lots of prius owners give the rest of us hybrid owners a bad rap for their stupidity.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 03:56 AM
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Well 40 f-bombs per gallon in the video (I didn't count)...

I'd be curious whether his method of either putting it into neutral or pushing the button for 3 seconds will work on a vehicle that is acting up at the moment.
My Yaris Verso D4D (2002) does cut the engine back to idle regardless of pedal position after 2 seconds of braking. I can not really imagine that Toyota did cut back on simple features like this- it's approx 10 lines of code in the software.
So IMO there must be some other issues with that- either the computer locks up and really ignores all the inputs like button, shifter, brake pedal etc, so the driver has only steering and the hydraulic brakes- well then it's a real problem-and it's not the driver.
On the other hand I have seen a load of stupid drivers over here with automatic transmissions. After going through the carwash they very often put it into R and step on the gas, resulting in a bang, and then a lawsuit because the carwash ruined their car... (I am installing video systems in many car wash places to document the driver error)

Just my 2c

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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:12 AM
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I just don't know why if the throttle stuck on a Prius ... how come he didn't just quit feeding the stupid gerbil ??? It'll hop off the wheel to look for food .... and ya can pull off the road !!

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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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First remember that the Cummins has been throttle by wire ever since 98. Two it isn't the fact that Toyota has had problems, everybody has problems. The thing is that Toyota has been on a pedastal for years for their impeccable quality, and they deserve it because of that quality. The reason it is such a big deal is that they knew about the problem and have tried to hide it from the public. They bragged in memos about talkin the NATSB out of recalling thier proudcts. This whole mess has proved that when it comes down to it, Toyota is no different than any other company. They will do what ever it takes to maximize their profits. On another note, my 07 Charger R/T will automaticall up shift when the redline is met in autostick mode. I have not tried to put it in neutral while acceleration, but the computer will not let you downshift in an effort to prevent damage to the motor. The upshift is annoying when trying to do a smokey burnout. It has been asked why the e brake has not been used to stop a runaway car. First the ebrake on modern cars are desigined to hold the car still when parked. It is too small to be used to slow down a nonaccelerating car and is practially usless if the throttle is stuck to the floor. All it will do is smoke really bad, and possibily cause the driver to loose control of the car.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 74dart
The thing is that Toyota has been on a pedastal for years for their impeccable quality, and they deserve it because of that quality.
I must be misunderstanding you. Because they've had a decent quality product, they deserve to have bad press?

Originally Posted by 74dart
First the ebrake on modern cars are desigined to hold the car still when parked. It is too small to be used to slow down a nonaccelerating car and is practially usless if the throttle is stuck to the floor. All it will do is smoke really bad, and possibily cause the driver to loose control of the car.
I didn't know the emergency brakes on newer cars were separate of the normally used service brakes. I thought the emergency brake lever simply applied the service brakes by a mechanical means instead of the usual hydraulic means when the brake pedal is depressed.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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I must be misunderstanding you. Because they've had a decent quality product, they deserve to have bad press?
They deserve being put on the pedstal because of their quality record. Sorry for the missunderstanding.

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I didn't know the emergency brakes on newer cars were separate of the normally used service brakes. I thought the emergency brake lever simply applied the service brakes by a mechanical means instead of the usual hydraulic means when the brake pedal is depressed.
Depends on the system used for the rear disk brakes. Most rear disk brake setups use a drum brake inside the hub that is only used for the emergency brake.
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