[quote author=Shovelhead link=board=10;threadid=21960;start=0#msg206095 date=1068060138]
I wish you had been in front of my house at 10:30 last night when 2 "ricers" ran up and down my street 3 times at Full Boogie with their Fart pipes. : >
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That's when you go out and start throwing 2x4's out in the middle of the road...

 

Hmmmmmm....that has possibilities. :

Hey DF, can you get fingerprints off a 2X4?

 

Gloves!

 

I've gotten lots of tickets and I was breaking the law for every one .......... the cops are just doing they're jobs ......

and of course there's selective enforcement ......... because it's left up to the officers descretion who he charges .........take 10 different officers and let em look at a crowd ........... they'll want to charge 10 different people

as for the harley thing ......... we got one cop around here that likes to cite harley owners when they got no baffles in their exhaust ........so they get charged too

 

[quote author=phox_mulder link=board=10;threadid=21960;start=0#msg205333 date=1067921031]
I know full well that if I'm driving in the middle of a pack of cars going 75 in a 65 that I'll be the one pulled over.

Unless, one of the other cars is a red corvette.

Long hair, scraggly beard, jacked up and straight piped truck.

Knowing this, I'm just extra carefull to follow the rules.
Always signal a lane change,
always have my seatbelt on,
lay off the go pedal if the law enforcement officer is on my passenger side. :

Price I pay for "sticking out in a crowd", or would that be "above the crowd"

If I didn't want to stick out, I'd be driving a white honda accord.

Naaaahhhhh, I'll stick with my Cummins powered Dodge thanx.


phox
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Addendum:

Previous vehicles have netted me only one speeding ticket per, and I was indeed breaking the law so I fully deserved each one.

I have yet to get a ticket, or even pulled over for a warning in my Dodge.
If I do break a traffic law, or infract upon one, I fully expect and deserve to get pulled over.

If I'm ever caught DUI or DWI I deserve to be shot.

phox

 

As far as speeding or other traffic tickets go, you should always fight them. Always. Go to court, plead not guilty, make the system work the way it's intended. Maybe you get it dismissed or lowered, maybe not, but you certainly cut their profit margin a bit... ;D

 

[quote author=jfpointer link=board=10;threadid=21960;start=15#msg206199 date=1068080220]
As far as speeding or other traffic tickets go, you should always fight them. Always. Go to court, plead not guilty, make the system work the way it's intended. Maybe you get it dismissed or lowered, maybe not, but you certainly cut their profit margin a bit... ;D


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Yep I'll pay 500 bucks to fight a 60 dollar ticket. Speeding fines are just another tax grab. Company around here that will fight for you and if you lose they are free. Most of them are x cops. Ever heard of Waldo Fla??? Speeding ticket city. I pay enough in taxes, thanks.

 

Got stopped on a ricer bike about 10 years ago and wrote for reckless op. When we got to court the cop told the DA it was because the bike was too big! Man was that DA mad. My Dad is a retired deputy and he was sure that I did something stupid. Anyway they tossed the ticket in the can and I went on my way, $500 lighter.

 

I've fought my last two. An exhibition of excelleration in 2000, which i got reduced from $300 to $50, and a speeding ticket in 2001 for doing 55 in a 45. Only problem was that the zone was 50, not 45. Got that one dropped. You're going to pay the court costs either way, might as well get you money's worth. I've been pulled over 2 more times since then, only warnings both times. The second one was by the cop who gave me the speeding ticket. Said he'd give me the warning cause he didn't want to have to take time to go to court again. I thought that was funny.

 

[quote author=jfpointer link=board=10;threadid=21960;start=15#msg206199 date=1068080220]
As far as speeding or other traffic tickets go, you should always fight them. Always. Go to court, plead not guilty, make the system work the way it's intended. Maybe you get it dismissed or lowered, maybe not, but you certainly cut their profit margin a bit... ;D


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If you weren't in the wrong....then by all means fight it. BUT, if you were clearly breaking the law and got caught....well, you have no reason to complain and no reason to waste yours or other taxpayers money fighting it.

 

Exactly ... wrong is still wrong even if noone sees you doing it.

I don't agree with fighting a ticket just to get your digs in with "The Man". If you have been in a courtroom lately, you know how packed the docket is with goobers that are all "Innocent". This is what prevents the rest of us from having the right to a speedy trial.

PISTOL

 

Sometimes fighting a ticket works out for more than just the defendant. http://www.tennessean.com/local/arch...nt_ID=41877517

 

Here's what bothers me: when you get a ticket, there is the fine. OK, i did something wrong, I pay the fine. Understood. There is also the court cost. Well, if you just pay the ticket and send it in, why is there a court cost? It never goes to court. The secretary takes the money order or cashier's check and puts it in a pile of other checks. Never goes to court. They're figureing you're not going to fight the violation, so they'll get their extra $50 for nothing. Not a big fan of that. And about "right to a speedy trial". There was only one case the day I saw the judge-mine. Took all of 30 min. to take care of. No more cases before or after, I'd say no one was suffering from a "slow" trial.

 

[quote author=erics76 link=board=10;threadid=21960;start=15#msg206347 date=1068096538]
Here's what bothers me: when you get a ticket, there is the fine. OK, i did something wrong, I pay the fine. Understood. There is also the court cost. Well, if you just pay the ticket and send it in, why is there a court cost? It never goes to court. The secretary takes the money order or cashier's check and puts it in a pile of other checks. Never goes to court. They're figureing you're not going to fight the violation, so they'll get their extra $50 for nothing. Not a big fan of that. And about "right to a speedy trial". There was only one case the day I saw the judge-mine. Took all of 30 min. to take care of. No more cases before or after, I'd say no one was suffering from a "slow" trial.
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Here in Maryland they don't charge you court fees if you pay the fine by mailing in a check or paying the cashier. Court costs are about $23 here. And yes, there is no such thing as a speedy trial. A ticket usually takes anywhere from 3-6 months to go to court here.

 

[quote author=Hoss link=board=10;threadid=21960;start=15#msg206310 date=1068091041]
[quote author=jfpointer link=board=10;threadid=21960;start=15#msg206199 date=1068080220]
As far as speeding or other traffic tickets go, you should always fight them. Always. Go to court, plead not guilty, make the system work the way it's intended. Maybe you get it dismissed or lowered, maybe not, but you certainly cut their profit margin a bit... ;D


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If you weren't in the wrong....then by all means fight it. BUT, if you were clearly breaking the law and got caught....well, you have no reason to complain and no reason to waste yours or other taxpayers money fighting it.
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But if you think holistically about most traffic offenses, and by that I primarily mean speeding, it's the system in an overall sense that's wasting taxpayers' money, not the individual fighting the ticket. Consider how much more effective law enforcement could be at policing real crimes (theft, murder, etc.) if they weren't forced (I say "forced" because it's normally a political decision) to expend resources on stuff like people going 10 mph over an arbitrary speed limit that's probably 20 mph lower than it could safely be. That represents a significant loss of potential policing activity that nonetheless creates a monetary return through the money paid in fines. By fighting speeding tickets, we the people can both exercise our rights and express our dissatisfaction with using police power solely to extract revenue by making it as unprofitable as possible.

I should mention that if you cause harm to someone, you should be held liable, of course.