I agree with you in principle, but I have seen evidence right here on on this site where people actually believe that trash Michael Moore put out.

Apparently many people are just not smart enough to see past the smoke and mirrors that these fiction writers portray.

 

In this case because if the truth were known by the masses he would only have the anti-system vote, and he knows it. He was guilty of treason, collaberating with the enemy during a declared war. He and Fonda should have been hung, not running for President. Kerry, Fonda, and a couple others did more damage to this countries reputation than anyone in history. Prisoners suffered for the false claims and anti-American retoric that he spewed out. The efforts of those like Kerry created an entire generation that has total mistrust and negative feelings for America, the American Governemnt, and any politition that does not share their views on how the country should be run.

Other countries do not see how we live and how we think. Instead they only know what the news media puts out and Hollywood puts on television. He either believed what he said and did, or he was only grandstanding for policical noteriety. Either way I would sooner put Carter back in office than Kerry. For years I would not watch CNN due to Fonda's marriage to Turner. At least she did admit she was wrong. Kerry is not a big enough human being.

 

I don't know where they found these 1000 or so people for this poll, but on most questions, the responses are so skewed and contradictory, I don't see how any of it could be credible.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...todaypolls.htm

 

Soldier welcomed home

BY JOYCE GODWIN

HERALD DEMOCRAT (Sherman, Texas)

The city of Trenton celebrated Bruce Himelwright Day Sunday marking the return of a son of the city now a hero from the Iraq war.

Injured in June after falling victim to ambush, Spc. Himelwright was shot several times and one bullet lodged in his hip but he still managed to save his Iraqi interpreter. For that action, Himelwright will receive a bronze star to go with the purple heart he's already received.

"I just did what I'd like to think anybody would do," Himelwright said standing in the high school gymnasium in which a celebration was held. "I didn't stop to think about it, I was acting on instinct."

A 1996 graduate of Trenton High School, Himelwright entered the Navy and, after completing his first tour, he joined the National Guard. He married Erin and they live with son Hunter in Chico, Calif.

President of the Economic Development for Trenton, Jo Ann Duncan, opened the proceedings in the Trenton gym Sunday by telling a short profile of Bruce Aaron Himelwright.

Mayor David Hamrick, a retired Air Force man, said he is proud to meet someone in uniform and he is proud of Bruce Himelwright. Of Himelwright's medals, Hamrick said "They don't just give those things away. What he did after his injury is what earned him the bronze star. It makes me proud to stand here and honor him."

Himelwright's former football coach said Himelwright makes him proud to be an American. "As a hero, I just thank you for all you have done and God bless you," he said.

The gym was filled with almost 200 people who came to honor a hometown hero and they all stood in ovation for the man of the hour.

Then Duncan invited all the veterans in the crowd to come forward to be the first to greet Himelwright and many of those faces coming out of the stands were tear-stained.

As people greeted the soldier following the formal proceedings, one woman said "I work with your mother and she has talked about you every day to tell us your progress." Then she added "I've prayed for you every day you were gone."

There were family members and townspeople Himelwright knew but it was clear he hadn't seen them in a long time.

In an interview following the ceremony, Himelwright said he was glad to be home and is not sure what's next for him. He's committed to the National Guard for another eight months and then he may re-enlist. He's also interested in law enforcement and is considering a civilian job in homeland security.

He said what Americans are seeing on their televisions is not the full picture of what's going on in Iraq. "Some of them don't like us but most say 'Bush good, Sadaam bad,' and they never see the good that's going on there," he said. "Children have schools they didn't have before and that's only a small part."

He said he is so blessed to be home and there was a time when he never thought he would get home. One of his biggest fears was his young son wouldn't know him when he got home but that hasn't been a problem. He said what got him through his ordeal was thoughts of his wife and son.

Trenton is clearly proud of its returning home-town hero but, as Hamrick pointed out, there are several other sons of Trenton on active duty now, and the city of Trenton remembers its military.

Himelwright said he was surprised to see so many people come to honor him. He doesn't see himself as a hero or special in anyway. He said he's just a soldier doing his job

 

It is a fact people believe what they "want" to believe.

 

MCMLV, The soldiers had a choice an thankfully they chose to fight to protect our great country. It's the Military not a vocational school. If you sign up there is a chance you are going to have to fight.

 

And if you do fight, there is a chance you may be killed. Is this basic principle not understood by anyone who voluntarily signs up? Is this not understood by the families who are unfortunate enough to loose a loved one when they go into battle? War anywhere, at any time, is ugly and those fighting the war get maimed and killed. Families everywhere then grieve the loss of their loved one. Sorry to sound callus (I'm not) but that is the bare and ugly facts.

 

Those of you wanting Kerry as president, are you honestly going to be happy with a low-life like that who accepts money from murderers? If so, what does this say about you and him?


COUNTDOWN TO ELECTION DAY
Kerry accepting 'blood money'?
3 infamous partial-birth abortionists give cash to Democrat

Posted: October 12, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Three abortion doctors who specialize in partial-birth abortions – two of whom actually advertise their willingness to perform the grisly procedure – are all contributors to John Kerry's presidential campaign.

George Tiller and Warren Hern may be the only two abortionists in the U.S. who openly advertise that they perform third-trimester abortions, writes Douglas Johnson in the Weekly Standard. Johnson is legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee.

The third doctor is Martin Haskell. Together, the three have contributed a total of $7,000 to help put Kerry in the White House.

"These contributions are worth scrutinizing because of what they reveal about John Kerry," writes Johnson.

"Although Haskell, Tiller, and Hern have been controversial figures for many years in national debates about late abortions (as anybody can ascertain by entering their names into Google), the Kerry campaign apparently readily accepted the contributions – money that might very well have originated in fees charged to perform partial-birth abortions or other late abortions."

Despite his declaration that he thinks "life begins at conception," Kerry likely attracts dollars from abortionists due to his consistent record of voting against any restrictions on the procedure, Johnson writes.

During Friday's presidential debate, Kerry defended his votes against the ban on partial-birth abortions, saying, "I'm against the partial-birth abortion, but you've got to have an exception for the life of the mother and the health of the mother under the strictest test of bodily injury to the mother."

Haskell wrote Kerry a check for $2,000 in June.

A nurse who worked briefly at one of Haskell's clinics, Brenda Pratt Shafer, witnessed close up the partial-birth abortion of a baby boy who she said was at 26 and a half weeks, Johnson writes.

"I stood at the doctor's side and watched him perform a partial-birth abortion on a woman who was six months pregnant," Shafer said. "The baby's heartbeat was clearly visible on the ultrasound screen. The doctor delivered the baby's body and arms, everything but his little head. The baby's body was moving. His little fingers were clasping together. He was kicking his feet.

"The doctor took a pair of scissors and inserted them into the back of the baby's head, and the baby's arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. Then the doctor opened the scissors up. Then he stuck the high-powered suction tube into the hole and sucked the baby's brains out. Now the baby was completely limp. I never went back to the clinic. But I am still haunted by the face of that little boy. It was the most perfect, angelic face I have ever seen."

Haskell was asked by Cincinnati Medicine whether or not it bothered him that a second-trimester fetus so closely resembles a baby.

He replied, "I really don't think about it. ... Many of our patients have ethical dilemmas about abortion. I don't feel it's my role as a physician to tell her she should not have an abortion because of her ethical feelings. ... I'm not to tell them what's right or wrong."

Tiller, whom pro-life activists have dubbed "Tiller the Killer," runs an abortion clinic in Wichita, Kan., and gave $1,000 to Kerry. Johnson notes Tiller, in a 1995 speech, spoke of performing abortions as late as 36 weeks.

Hern made three donations to two different Kerry accounts, totaling $4,000.

Johnson says Hern "wrote that pregnancy should be regarded not as a normal state but as an illness which 'may be treated by evacuation of the uterus.' Elsewhere he wrote that pregnancy is most appropriately compared to infestation by a parasite. He is a strong proponent of population control, who has written that population growth has made the human race itself an 'ecotumor' or 'planetary malignancy.'"

Kate Michelman, the longtime president of the National Abortion Rights Action League, told the New York Times, "Even on the most difficult issues, we've never had to worry about John Kerry's position," Johnson wrote, noting, "Like Kate Michelman, Doctors Haskell, Tiller, and Hern know their man."

 

Are you a Democrat, Republican or Southern Republican?

What with elections coming up, we should all decide.

Question: How do you tell the difference between
Democrats, Republicans and Southern Republicans? The answer can be found by posing the following question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife
and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife, and charges. You are carrying a Glock .40, and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

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Democrat's Answer:

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!

Does the man look poor or Oppressed?

Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?

Could we run away?

What does my wife think?

What about the kids?

Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock
the knife out of his hand?

What does the law say about this situation?

Does the Glock have appropriate safety built into it?

Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children?

Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?

Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me?

If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me?

Should I call 9-1-1?

Why is this street so deserted?

We need to raise taxes, have a paint and weed day and make this a happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior.

This is all so confusing!

I need to debate this with some friends for a few days
and try to come to a consensus.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Republican's Answer:

BANG!
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Southern Republican's Answer:

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
click....(sounds of reloading).
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
click
Daughter: "Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the
Winchester Silver Tips??"

 

OK, so soldiers have a say in it, in what? Soldiers, our soldiers, volunteer, and may God bless each and every one of them, to defend and to serve our country. Yes, that sadly enough and real enough, many a times exacts the ultimate sacrifice.
But I still say that they do not volunteer just to die. It is by definitive purpose that the soldier does not have a say in when and where he has to go and fight, that is left up to our civilian leadership. It is at this point where divergences of opinion start, in regard to the merits of the war in Iraq. It has been already disussed, I know where all stand, and as I have said that in the past, I'll say it again, I do respect all those positions and also from the candor of these discusions, I understand them.

It was not my intent to revisit the merits of the war, but rather, through discusion, to understand why the President is oposed to stem cell research. Cells obtained, NOT FROM ABORTIONS, but from labs. I felt it was hypocritical of the President, and used what I felt was a valid argument. I have yet to receive a counter point other than 'our soldiers have a say in it' If I am wrong I will readily admit it, but give something new to grasp.

Peter

 

Well I'm a Democrat and here is my answer



bang bang bang bang bang bang
and when asked why I shot him six times my reply would be, because I didn't have time to reload.

 

I don't think it's hypocritical at all, and they're two completely different things. The innocent life has no say whatsoever on whether it can live or not. It's a matter of ethics in terms of the right to life, or the right to kill your unborn child. What does that have to do with war? Nothing. I completely understand what you're trying to argue. I just think it's a ridiculous argument. They're so far apart that it's insane in my opinion to try and compare the two. Sometimes a president has to make decisions he doesn't like. Sometimes that includes war to protect our people and our interests. Someone has to fight that war. The people in our country have chosen to be in our military which requires them to be in combat when directed. They could have looked at that and walked away, but they signed up. How can you possibly compare that with an innocent life who can't make decision one on whether he or she gets to live? It's just plain ridiculous, so I just don't see your point as being the least bit credible.

 

Thought this was good-

Working people frequently ask retired people what they do to make their days interesting. I went to the store the other day. I was only in there for about 5 minutes. When I came out there was a city cop writing out a parking ticket.

I went up to him and said, "come on, buddy, how about giving a senior a break?" He ignored me and continued writing the ticket.

I called him a name. He glared at me and started writing another ticket for having worn tires. So I called him a worse name. He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first. Then he started writing a third ticket.

This went on for about 20 minutes. The more I abused him the more tickets he wrote.

I didn't care. My car was parked around the corner and this one had a "elect John Kerry" bumper sticker on it.

I try to have a little fun each day now that I'm retired.

It's important at our age!

 

I am not an expert on this subject but as I understand it, there is no law against the research, in any form. What Bush has done is restrict the tax money from citizens against such research from paying for it. Any lab or organization that wants to expend their own money on research from aborted fetuses is legal to do so. Even with that said, there is no restriction from stem cell research, paid from the government, just that research that results from aborted children. To start with, why does the tax money have to pay for it in the first place. Maybe George Soros should spend his money in a more beneficial way and fund it. To add to it, there were a certain amount of fetuses that were already available, and these are legal to experimentation with tax money.

 

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