Dezeldog,
I won't disagree with you about management. My flight instructor also worked for United through 9-11, and lost her job. I have watched the manager count go from one to five at one of our stations. Thats just managers. The number of employees has not gone up. But, I've worked as contract at union companies and watched the crap from the outside. I've watched the people that sleep, steal, and damage A/C and hide behind the union. Maybe the reason it happens in aircraft maintinance unions is because they are unskilled according to the U.S. dept. of Labor.??? Even lower then a fry cook a McD's.

Randy

 

My kind of thinking!!

MikeyB

 

There is a good article on MSN on the CEO's of the major corps. and there salarys for the past couple of yrs while the govt. picked up the unfunded penison. I do not understand why the govt. would allow a ceo to make ---say 12mil and then have to pick up the tab for that corps pension. That just blows my mind. Ultimately we the taxpayers are the ones getting bent over.

 

Now I have never been a Union worker. But one of my girlfriends worked for a hospital that went Union. She as a Respiratory Therapist prior to Union was able to help the patients out when they needed it or they asked for some help with something. She was able to help pick up a patient that had fallen. After they became unionized, if she did anything that was not strictly in her job description, she could be fined by the UNION.

She was fined $50 dollars for not calling an orderly to help a patient up that had fallen because that was his job not hers. However the patient was in pain and laying on the floor and unable to get up. So she helped them up. Who wouldnt and why would someone fine her for that except to line their pockets.

Unions do have there place but in health care I dont think that is a place for them.

But I also think Unions are partly to blame. More of a contributing factor not the root cause.

If you remember the Unions started as an extorsion racket in the early part of the century. And it has continued since then. Just now the extorsion part is behind the scenes and not out in the open like then.

You talk about the CEO's making the large bucks, Well how much are your Union leader making?


Where's my asbestos suit at?

 

Quote: "I have never been a union worker" but you have heard it from you're sister's boyfriend's cousins grandmother whjo heard it from the next door neighbor. Why is it that somebody that has no previous union experience seems to have all the answers. See you don't need you're asbestos suit after all.

 

This will probably come as little solace to Barry, but I suspect NAFTA is a case of "win some, lose some"..... I wonder how many jobs have been created as a result of nafta?
It is easy to look at the plant that closed and moved across the line but it is far more difficult to find (or see) the new business that has sprouted or expanded as a result of NAFTA (in both our countries)
I know the Jantzen (swimwear and clothing) factory here in Vancouver closed and went south to the states. Canada lost, the States won. where it's gone to from there who knows.....

dezeldog, you have a point here, but so does killfast1.... some of the silly rules unions have set up are legendary. (and not in a good way)

 

Question about selling a Texas plated vehicle.(Other)
Check it out. Thinks USA in trouble(right about that) buts heres why.
If you take Mexicans advise and go to mexico as "Adviser" what do you think Mexico will want to import your truck.
Clark

 

First, his handle is MEX-STAN (with out the dash)
Second, you will do well to watch mexstan, read his posts. While he posseses a point of view I frequently disagree with, I respect the guy for his ability to clearly articulate what he is thinking (no matter how wrong he is on most things ). This is something you would benefit from.
Third, Having seen your posts in mexstan's other thread, one can only assume the purpose of this post is to attack the guy.

Please, try your post again but this time put a bit more meat on it. State you point of view then provide a basis for that view.

Thanks,
Westcoaster

 

Westcoaster, thanks and well put. Hey, I thought I was wrong once before, so suppose I could perhaps be wrong once again. On second thoughts, NAH!

Darkvader, do you know what 'ASSUME' stands for? You have assumed a lot, including the fact that I am a Mexican. You are so very, very wrong. Now, just what is your point?

 

Quote: " some of the silly rules unions have set up are legendary. (and not in a good way)" Could you be more specific... That's pretty vague.

 

This silly enough for ya?

Back in 2003, Toronto, as with many other cities in North America, was wrestling with the good old money dilema. As a result of cuts, the parks were being neglected.

One of the suggestions was that the average citizens could help out by volunteering to help clean up and maintain their parks. But get this, the local union said they'd take legal action if anyone other than their members do the work. Say WHAT?!

Also, in Saskatchewan, union members ripped out 280 bunches of marigolds that local senior citizens had planted. The city had announced that they had no money for flowers, and the local senior citizens raised 50 dollars and planted the marigolds themselves.

It's high time the unions got off their high horse and woke up to reality. And they wonder why they have an image problem?

 

Ok guys iam a union worker have been for 32 years. Let me say this the ceo of the company i work for makes 9,616,000 dollars a year that equates to 77.00 a minute this butthole makes and they are starting to move everything out of the US. Should be overwith in the next 3 to 5 years.
All I can say for mexstan when your people figure out without you they can make or produce nothing and keep you people working for nothing. I have been to Mexico, Nicaraugua,and other countries with people so poor they will do anything for nothing these companies have no heart feelings at all for mankind. All they worry about is return on investment .
As for you non union Americans all i can say is if not for organized labor they wouldnt be no Dodge trucks cause we would still be like the people in Mexico
Srry guys I had to say that Gary

 

If in fact that's exactly how it happened then that is pretty ....pitiful. I can't imagine any union doing anything to hurt a senior. In the past we have had a FREE clean up day for seniors. Many times we would inspect heating systems and do the necessary repairs-----no charge. Now that sounds more like the trade unions I know.

 

Sorry about getting the handle wrong. Mexstan is not the problem but the symptom. Never thought would be Mexican, was pretty sure( assumed again ) an expatriate of some form. Has well learned to exploit the weakness in the system the US has saddled itself with to feel good. Just burns one to read their posts about how FUBAR the US is( they are right about that ), then come back asking how to exploit the same weakness to go the other way( which is to complete transaction in Texas and buyer will xfer from there, bringing across border not in his name may be problem, getting insure. on truck not in buyers name but in Mexico also a problem even on new acquisition ).Mexstan apparently chooses to live/work in Mexico but seems to wish to take the best of both countries and pay neither their due. As far as the other thread I was not setting up to attack him but confirming the thought that he had not imported because of cost and wishes to export without cost, again exploiting the weakness in the system. This a symptom of the problem that will bury the US as we know it and resent those who would abuse the variances in the NAFTA agreement and the residency and license /insureance requirements of states just as I resent those who abuse welfare and other systems in the US. Legal, yes right, no.
Clark

 

HUH???? Darkvader, you sure have your facts mixed up. I am neither importing nor exporting, nor am I exploiting the weakness of any country. What makes you think I am importing or exporting and what commodity am I using? Have no idea how you arrived at those conclusions. Also, please explain in simple English just what problem you think I am a symptom of.