My ol' man is a Mason as well. I don't ask him as I know he wouldn't say anything. As for the junk you read on the internet, it's junk.

 

depends on what site you go to.

britt

 

It seems like a weird deal to me.Why not proclaim what you believe instead of hiding it?I saw in the local paper the other day they had a picture of a mason and they were calling him the ''Worshipful Master''.The only one that I would call by that name is the man that died for my sins.But not a human being.Just My opinion

 

Freemasonry is not a belief. It is a secret society with roots that are supposed to date back to the building of King Solomon’s Temple. Interestingly most of the founding fathers of our country were also freemasons. You must believe in a god and must be a free man (meaning not a slave). Which is one of my complaints about the masons. The Masonic lodges here in the south are all white. They will not allow black members. African American’s attend a lodge known as Prince Hall, which is basically the same thing as the Masonic lodge. From what I understand, some of the lodges in the north are starting to allow African Americans entry into the Masonic lodge but I do not know that for sure.

Contrary to what some say, there is a wealth of information in books and on the Internet about Freemasonry. Even their secrets. That should make a few angry.

Britt

 

Even some lower level Masons have no idea what the secrets are . You have to be pretty high up . Some churches deny Masons membership .

 

For whatever it's worth, there is a black gentleman that I work with that is a mason (even has the ring). It doesn't get much further south than Texas.

I've always wondered what the Masonic Lodge was all about but never cared enough to research it.

 

i work with a lot of african americans that have Masonic rings. ask them if they belong to Prince Hall or a Regular Masonic lodge.

britt

 

Check a grand lodge's website, it would probably provide more acurate information then someone's personal views. I have wonder myself how many of the member here were masons. Guess we won't know for sure

 

My grandfather was a mason, and so is my step dad. I looked over some websites a few years ago, and basically they all said something like the following

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I'm sure if you asked in a serious way what they are about , you would get an answer. They do a lot of charity work with sick children and have a "shriners hospital" for children. As for their lodge practices, I don't know.

I suggest you talk or look at a website from the masons and not someone that thinks they know what they are about.

The men I have known, that are masons, are very good men, with high moral values.

Ron

 

People are not satisfied with not understanding, they have to turn it into accusations and hate. Muslems hate Christians and Jews, it is no different the feelings that are gendered towards Masons when they know little of the facts and just listen to the accusations and hype.

Extremely little is secret, but members not knowing what is secret, just don't talk at all. You don't talk about your private encounters with the wife, but no one calls you a pervert because it is secret.

Many of the things that you adore of this nation as it was formed was due to the beliefs and the influence of Masons at its beginnings. The Bible says, Christ says, "judge a tree by its fruit" You cannot come up with any evil that the Masonic Lodges have produced, only the same type of garbage that the Christian haters come up with to down you. On the other hand, thousands of burned children, children with other medical problems, relief from disaster, and other charitable persuits have depended on Masonic money and efforts. The Alamo was mostly Masons fighting for Texas. Go to one of the Cemetaries and see how many died for Texas.

Go to any dictionary and look up the names that offend you and see where they come from, in old England, they are just names of honor, not any religious indications. The Bible says call no man father yet every Catholic Priest is called Father.

Any organization, group, religon, race, or division of people has the same lies, hatred, misinformation, and stories spread about it. All of this can be obtained on the internet. I am a Mason, my two sons are Masons, my father and grandfather were Masons. Think what you want, I am proud of the heritage, read American history, you might be also.

In order to call Masonry evil or agains God, as some do you would have to say the same for George Washington and about half that signed the Constitution. To do that you have no knowledge of what you are talking about. How many presidents were Masons?

Certainly there have been bad Masons, just as there are bad Priests, Jews, Christians, Boy Scouts, and gas station attendants. Why throw stones at something that you know nothing about except what some that have an ajenda have to throw up about it? Take note that whenever there is an opressive government, every one of them, Masons are killed off first. Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, all of them. Might also add the Pope started it all. You have internet, read how it all worked.

 

My older son was made a Master Mason with two black men. Most states recognize Prince Hall lodges as well as have black Masons in membership. Each State is autonomous on their operation, there is no central Lodge in the US. How Arkansas handles race is up to Arkansas. One of the French Grand Lodges is not recognized by American or English lodges that includes Canada, because they dropped the requirement that you must believe in the "one" God. There is only one God, the same one that Christians believe in. Almost all American Masons are Christians, as the Southern Baptist Conference found out when they tried to eliminate Masons from their membership. They could not do it without serious loss of Ministers and members.

There are Masons from just about every religon and race in the world. So long as they believe in God. Religious believers from religons that believe in multiple Gods cannot become Masons. Neither can an athiest.

 

It is interesting how many people there seem to be on here that alude to being a mason or claim to know one or several. I never knew they existed until the movie National Tresure and that was the only time I ever herd of them till this thread. I have never come across one that I am aware of and am shure no one I know is one unless they are good at hiding it. I dont know if there just are none or very few around here or if I just have not been paying attention. It seems to me that most on here that post abought beeing one or knowing one are frome the east and the south where there is a lot more national history. From my VERY LIMITED understanding of them it seems to me that they are a good bunch of people that keep some secrets in order to protect the foundation of there orginization. That is nothing abnormal or evil in my book, just self preserving. I do agree that giving men titels such as "Worshipful Master" is not a very good thing from a Christan stand point but as pointed out all Catholic Preists are refered to as Father. I have no problem with giving them titels of athority but "Worshipful Master" is just out of the question. Anyhow this is interesting stuff I would reserch it on the internet but I can imagine a lot of it is missleading and I would rather not know much about them then know the wrong stuff and other peoples speculations.

 

Generally you don't run around yelling "I am a Mason" Your Grand Lodge is 161 years old and is very active. I am sure you deal with Masons every day.

In England there are still the titles that are used like "Lord" Worshipful is just another that was well accepted at the time it was used. Times have changed and the lodge did not. No reason for it to change. Master is just the level of Masonry, which indicates a full Mason of 3 degrees. As I said before, look up Worshipful in the dictionary. It is a harmless title that was used in the 1700's and still is. There is no reason to change it. Who is Lord Byron of England, no one assumes that he is competing with "the Lord" do they? Many Spanish are named Jesus also.

Here is a clip for an encyclopidea: (this is current, not old)

Some cities in England, Wales and Northern Ireland have the further distinction of having a Lord Mayor rather than a simple Mayor. In Scotland, the equivalent is the Lord Provost. Lord Mayors have the right to be styled "The Right Worshipful The Lord Mayor". The Lord Mayors and Provosts of Belfast, Bristol, Cardiff, Edinburgh, Glasgow, City of London, and York all have the further right to be styled "The Right Honourable the Lord Mayor" (or Provost), though they are not members of the Privy Council, as this style usually indicates. The style is associated with the office, not the person holding it, so "The Right Worshipful Joe Bloggs" would be incorrect.

 

Uh, Oh....... Haulin:
Here is what some "Christians" have to say about Free Mason membership.
Excerpt from: http://www.gotquestions.org/free-masonry.html

When a Christian takes the oath of Freemasonry, he is swearing on the following doctrines that God has pronounced false and sinful:

1. That salvation can be gained by man’s good works.

2. To accept and promote that Jesus is just one of many equally revered prophets.

3. Masonry makes Christian men swear that they will remain silent in the Lodge and not talk of Christ.

4. Masonry makes Christians swear that they are approaching the Lodge in spiritual darkness and ignorance, when the Bible says Christians are already in the light, children of the light, and are indwelt by the Light of the World—Jesus Christ.

5. By demanding that Christians take the Masonic oath, Masonry leads Christians into blasphemy and taking the name of the Lord in vain.

6. Masonry makes Christians falsely swear that the G.A.O.T.U. [Great Architect of the Universe], whom Masonry believes is the true God of the universe, is present in all other religions.

7. Masonry makes Christians falsely swear to the teaching that true worship can be offered in the Lodge to God without the mediatorship of Jesus.

8. By swearing the Masonic oath and participating in the doctrines of the Lodge, Christians are perpetuating a false gospel to other Lodge members, who look only to Masonry’s plan of salvation to get to heaven.

9. By taking the Masonic obligation, he is agreeing to allow the pollution of his mind, spirit, and body by those who serve false gods and believe false doctrines.

As you can see, Masonry denies and contradicts the clear teaching of Scripture and numerous issues. Masonry also requires people to engage in activities which the Bible condemns. As a result, a Christian should not be a member of any secret society or organization that has any connection with Free Masonry.

Seem pretty sure of what they are saying here, Big contradiction in beliefs here huh?