Take this for what its worth, and if you are in Human Resources I’ll apologize in advance.

I work in the drinking water industry for a middle size city. We have an opening for a trainee operator. HR has sent me 7 applications to look at. Three of the apps had a DWI and one had a felony conviction. Of the three remaining apps. One is a possible candidate the other 2 do not even qualify to be interviewed.

What’s with these people don’t they realize that they are asking me to hire someone to treat the water that they drink ,that can not be trusted to be sober or is it that they don’t care?

I realize that the City does not pay real well but the checks don’t bounce. You would think I could get better people than these.

Then again maybe I should hire a couple of these people and let HR take the credit for it. Or maybe this is an opportunity to push for better wages.
Of all of the utilities (Electric, Gas, Phone and Water) water pays the least. The bad thing about this is you can get by without any of the others but you have to have water to live. But the public thinks water should be FREE.

OK I feel better now sorry for the rant but it’s been a long bad day.

 

I don't have any record. Whacha payin???

 

If ya have any fish in that water that you need to get out I'm your guy.

No DWI, No record, Have own tools.

 

I think we are finally starting to see the importance of our water standards in this country. I hope it catches up quick enough, to pay you some extra money

I was talking to friend that is a Contractor and he said that out of his 10 employees, only 1 has a drivers license, and he is a minor

Geesh wheres the good help?

 

good question! we get some winners through here too. Usually don't last long and that is my complaint. Spend time and money to train, they screw up and run a bunch of scrap, layout and get paid for it, then get fired or quit and it starts over again. IF you have good help, do the extra things to let them know they are appreciated...even if you cannot offer more pay. - JKE

 

Only if it's easy to fire them if they don't work out. I know it doesn't help, but it's not just your HR department and that job--every time I get ready to hire someone, which isn't very often, I have to make sure that HR knows to give me all the resumes they receive. Otherwise they pre-select based on a bunch of criteria unrelated to the job and I'll end up missing a lot of good people.

 

We have much of the same problem here. It's not as bad as it used to be. For years we were required to fill quotas based upon ethnic background, sex, and probably a half dozen other ACLU inspired requirements. What should have been the primary requirement, that of QUALIFICATIONS, was not even considered. I had to bring an individual on board who's only qualification was that he did know what the weapons systems he would be working on looked like. 90% of his time was spent doing tax returns and selling pagers and cell phones. It took six years and ten trees worth of paper work to give him the choice of resigning or being fired. On top of that, the "Peter Principle" worked and he is now making half again more than he was here.
This job may not be the highest paid, but for some of us, the satisfaction of knowing that you are giving our grunts the best support available means more than money.
The government keeps talking about the "pay for performance" plan. I'd like to see it happen. However, there would be some sorry POS that would manipulate the system to his advantage.
My .02 worth.

woundupafterthrowingtheepaoutontheirrearShortround out

 

Couple of years ago in Corpus Christi, the CITGO refinery posted ad in the Caller-Times newspaper for 11 positions. Over 350 people applied and CITGO was able to hire 8 people. The rest either didn't have a high school diploma or couldn't pass the drug screening...

BigFoot, I see you're from Texas....WELCOME TO TEXAS!

Oh, rossn2 -1 WIld Hogs -Zero. 172lb boar shot Friday eve at approx 8:10 in Freer....

 

I may fling my 2c over the pond here.....

Had an employee. Trained him really well, (had lots of exterior training expenses for him) and found out yesterday that he does not intend to stay- bad thing is how I found out.
Was at the printers shop to fix some stuff they had messed up and find his new business cards there- while he is on a "vacation to get off the stress of doing the MCP and NCNE and some Cisco stuff " - paid vacation.
He couldn't have told me beforehand- today I talked to my lawyer- there's no way to get back the expenses for the training if he states (before court) that this would threaten his economical existence. Who cares (you may insert muuuuuch ruder language here) for mine?

Very fed up AlpineRAM

 

Many corps here are now requiring prospective employees to sign "intent to stay for *** period of time" statement before they are sent to expen$ive training.

We had two individuals who, within weeks of finishing their Govenment paid for training, quit to go into the private industry at 3 times what they were making before their training.
Needless to say, they won't send anyone else for training now, so the rest of his co-workers are now hosed.

 

Well, I had him sign that "intent to stay" paper (naturally) but over here in this case as long as you are a private company this can be circumvented by the employee as stated before.
I paid more than my annual net income for training and wages on this guy.....
Generally this doesn't seem to be my year so far.....
Anybody know about a good job for a semiprofessional pessimist with degree in cynism

AlpineRAM

 

Hmmmmm,....... Moderator, maybe..........

 

 

I'm of the opinion that any place big enough to have an HR department is not worth working at. Along with HR nonsense come corporate BS and completely illogical hiring and firing requirments.

 

Alpine, down here we have a sure fire cure for that kind of problem, it's called a BAG party, only two things needed, burlap bag and baseball bat, and CP, I agree, when I worked for the big corporation, I wrote a guy up 6 simes, last time he broke a $20,000.00 part after being told not to do what he did when it broke, 2 times before, I finally asked for permission to fire him, was told OK, but when I did, he screamed and cryied to them, said I was being mean to him and he was under severe stress, they gave him a week off with pay and wrote ME up, for following company policy. Makes ya wonder what body orifice their head is stuck in?
And you can't really find anybody that WANTS to work anymore, most just wanna show up, drink coffee or cokes, and get a check.