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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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E-85 Gasoline

My wife's car is a 2005 model PT Crusier. Can E-85 Gasoline be used in this car? Or does the car have to say flex-fuel in order to use E-85?

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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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The real question is why bother? It costs more and gives less BTU per gallon.

But to actually answer your question, check your owners manual.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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Scroll down to question 1357 http://www.ptdoityourself.net/tl/tl_55.html
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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By me, E85 is $2.14 and regular is $2.99. I think E85 is more cost effective now then when it was $2.14 and $2.50....
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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The local fuel distributor said that it had to be at least $0.50 per gallon less to make up the fuel mileage difference. If the price difference is $2.14 vs $2.99 it should be worth it but I've never seen that big of a difference in them locally.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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it is a good alternative if you need high octane tho . . . .
I plan to use it in my turbo 3.0 project . .
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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It is about .75 a gallon cheaper here, ( I think )where they sell it.

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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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Most of you totally missed what I meant by costing more. I am paying for him buying E85, as are everyone here. That is the only reason its cheaper then regular gas. 3.4 billion in tax dollars to get it to the pump in '06 to decrease our dependence on foreign oil by just over 1%

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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tmleadr03
Most of you totally missed what I meant by costing more. I am paying for him buying E85, as are everyone here. That is the only reason its cheaper then regular gas. 3.4 billion in tax dollars to get it to the pump in '06 to decrease our dependence on foreign oil by just over 1%

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I totally understand what you meant. I've always said that ethanol is a joke (at least if it's made from corn). It's just offered to make some people feel good. But since there isn't much you can do about the subsidies, and if you personally can save some cash by using it, go for it.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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What really needs to happen is they need to start making sugar ethanol here. In south america almost all the stations sell ethanol at the pumps that is made from sugar (plentiful and easy to refine to alcohol.) and it is less than half the cost of gasoline, most of the cars down there are set up to run on it, and they say that while it does lower fuel economy it also produces less emissions and in the end still saves money. The biggest drawback is a reduction in overall power, but if it saves money it'd be great for daily drivers. But from what i understand the sugar companies won't release the sugar to make the ethanol in the US. (sounds to me like someone is in bed with exxon-mobil and all the other big names in oil)
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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What really needs to happen is they need to start making sugar ethanol here. In south america almost all the stations sell ethanol at the pumps that is made from sugar (plentiful and easy to refine to alcohol.) and it is less than half the cost of gasoline, most of the cars down there are set up to run on it, and they say that while it does lower fuel economy it also produces less emissions and in the end still saves money. The biggest drawback is a reduction in overall power, but if it saves money it'd be great for daily drivers. But from what i understand the sugar companies won't release the sugar to make the ethanol in the US. (sounds to me like someone is in bed with exxon-mobil and all the other big names in oil)
And you think they griped when the price of corn went up ? I don't even want to think of the furor caused by raising sugar prices to make ethanol .
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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But from what i understand the sugar companies won't release the sugar to make the ethanol in the US. (sounds to me like someone is in bed with exxon-mobil and all the other big names in oil)
It's not the sugar companies, it's the gov't tariffs that's placed on imported sugar that prices them out of the market. All in the name of protecting the American sugar farmer. The high sugar prices are one reason the candy companies are moving south of the border.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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And the point that everyone misses is where do we come up with the tens of millions of acres of farmland to grow these 'fuel' crops without displacing our crops grown for food??

And ethanol from sugar cane is great.... for areas that can economically and abundantly grow sugar cane. In the US, this isn't really feasible. So if we're importing sugar cane or sugar cane ethanol, how much energy independance have we gained?
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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And the point that everyone misses is where do we come up with the tens of millions of acres of farmland to grow these 'fuel' crops without displacing our crops grown for food??

And ethanol from sugar cane is great.... for areas that can economically and abundantly grow sugar cane. In the US, this isn't really feasible. So if we're importing sugar cane or sugar cane ethanol, how much energy independance have we gained?
OO OO I know I know!!! raises hand and waves it in the air


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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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I got these from modern marvels show on the History channel.

It takes 3 gallons of fossil fuel to make 7 gallons of e-85.

If thats true.
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