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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Compact utility tractors

Which ones do you fellow members have? and why? I'm considering one, not sure yet of which one to go with...JD, New Holland or Kubota. Or what others are top runners?

Going to need it for the loader and back hoe. I used a Kubota L35 recently. I think i need one slightly bigger. Was decent, just kind got bored of the constant shifting for he different ground speeds. Also with the F and R shifting.

Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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I have a Massey Ferguson 1428 V Hydro. Was looking for a loader tractor to help move stoves around and still be light enough to mow the yard (cant afford two of em). I liked the b3030 kubota, but they run several hundred more rpms to get the same HP, which means lower torque. As for JD, well my brother is a die hard JD guy, used to run a dealership, so I COULD NOT even consider one of those..LOL. Really liked the fact that the valving and everything is old school the one I bought (no electrics, levers into valve bodies). Really, you have to like the dealer, or you wont like the tractor.

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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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As far as quality is concerned, you can't do better than Kubota. But I went with a New Holland and I really like it. After looking around and asking mechanics what breaks, measuring the size of the parts and seeing how the front and rear axle systems are designed, I found the NH to be the strongest.

Also look at little things like how convenient and fun is it to drive, is it easy to check the oil, do the ones at the dealers have leaks (many backhoes I saw did).

It's really important to decide on the type of tranny you want. I don't like hydros but it sounds like you don't like manuals. Hydros are far more complicated, less intuitive to drive, and are less efficient. Manuals require shifting all the time and put a lot of wear on the clutch.

Every size has its pluses and minuses. Mine is a 29 DA and I'm building a house on five acres of sloped land. Septic, clearing brush and trees, foundation, utility ditches (one was 5 feet deep through rocky ground for over 200 feet), move gravel and do small forklifting up to about 1000 lbs etc. I also get firewood and have made a couple of roads with it. What a useful, fun and money saving thing it is!
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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I have a JD 790. Great tractor. 4 wheel drive, 4 speed and 2 speed rear. It is smaller than what you are talking about. There is a 990 in the series at about 40 hp. I get a lot of work out of mine.

Hal
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Raspy
As far as quality is concerned, you can't do better than Kubota. But I went with a New Holland and I really like it. After looking around and asking mechanics what breaks, measuring the size of the parts and seeing how the front and rear axle systems are designed, I found the NH to be the strongest.

Also look at little things like how convenient and fun is it to drive, is it easy to check the oil, do the ones at the dealers have leaks (many backhoes I saw did).

It's really important to decide on the type of tranny you want. I don't like hydros but it sounds like you don't like manuals. Hydros are far more complicated, less intuitive to drive, and are less efficient. Manuals require shifting all the time and put a lot of wear on the clutch.

Every size has its pluses and minuses. Mine is a 29 DA and I'm building a house on five acres of sloped land. Septic, clearing brush and trees, foundation, utility ditches (one was 5 feet deep through rocky ground for over 200 feet), move gravel and do small forklifting up to about 1000 lbs etc. I also get firewood and have made a couple of roads with it. What a useful, fun and money saving thing it is!
It ammazes me when peoplr talk about Kubota, they certainly are "ok" but they definitely aren't great. They tend to most often be the cheapest but are typically much lighter construction than competitive makes. The New Holland, (which is really a Shibaura) is a good machine, you will be very happy with that. The John Deere's (which are really Yanmars) are a good outfit as well and hold their value great like anything Green. Either one of those would be my pick.

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Old Jun 21, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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The reason Kubota tractors are light is because they were originally built to work in rice paddies. The early Kubotas (don't know about the new ones) were designed to run under water with the exhaust puffing black smoke like a snorkle.

In the '70's Kubota, Yanmar, and a few other companies began importing "compact tractors" to the US. A few eventually evolved into other ownership and a few remain. No diesel tractors under 40 HP are built in America.
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Old Jun 21, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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I have been looking at these.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...+479973+770394
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Old Jun 21, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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We have a kubota lawn mower with 6000 some eyed hours on it and never had any major work done to it, no engine work at all to it. It has worn out a couple decks but the power unit is good and still running strong. We also have a kubota L2900 compact tractor with 800 some hours on it. Never done any work to it other than regular maintance. Only complant with it is the turf tires and the loader part is a little weak when it comes to lifting in my opinion. Kubotas are good tractors if you take care of them.

The guy across the street from me bought a new holland last year to mow his two horse fields, which is all he does with this tractor and it has spent more time in the shop getting worked on than what he has used it mowing.
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Old Jun 21, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Check out the new Cub Cadets---I hear they've merged with Yanmar for their powertrain. I'm a Yanmar fan and am (somewhat) patiently awaiting the funds for either a grey Yanmar or a JD 650.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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I looked at John Deere, Mahindra, Kioti, Massey before I decided on the Kubota. As far as Kubota being the cheapest that was not my experience. I stayed within a comparable models. The best bang for the buck in my area was the Kioti, it was a nice heavy tractor with a good warranty, but the dealer has a horrible reputation so I decided to go with the Kubota B7610 HST, it is smaller than what you are looking for but it is a real workhorse. Go to different dealers and test them out, any dealer worth their salt will let you run a machine around the yard and get a feel for them. Go with a Hydro unit, the only time I have to stop to shift is to go from low to high or high to low or engage an implement, going from forward to reverse is just a mere press of the peddle forward or back. I found going with a slightly bigger machine than what I needed worked well for me, so just food for thought, here are a couple pics,

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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Kubota BX 2350. 23hp with front end loader. more uses than you can count Try to buy a used on you'll pay almost what a new one goes for, hold their value really well.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by D2 Cat
The reason Kubota tractors are light is because they were originally built to work in rice paddies. The early Kubotas (don't know about the new ones) were designed to run under water with the exhaust puffing black smoke like a snorkle.

In the '70's Kubota, Yanmar, and a few other companies began importing "compact tractors" to the US. A few eventually evolved into other ownership and a few remain. No diesel tractors under 40 HP are built in America.

Most of the compact tractors on the market today were originally designed for that type of work, that ia what they do with them in Japan.

The New Holland compacts are actually "assembled" in Georgia. But they are of Japanese origin as well.

If you look at things like hydraulic pump setups, axle construction, platform stamping, general fit and finish of the machine overall. I definitely preffer the likes of the New Holland over the Kubota. I've found the loader construction to be far supperior.

I actually do some mowing with a Kubota and have used a few different models over the years. They are certainly good little tractors, I'm not knocking them, but I definitely don't think they are the best on the market, and I know most times when I lost a deal to Kubota it because of the price point factor.

I've found the wiring (what little wiring their is on a compact tractor) to be very poor quality as well.

I used to sell New Holland for a living, so I got to know a few things about them.

Also took some Kubotas on trade and the customers loved their new NH units.

I don't think I ever had a unit actually come back for a warranty claim??? Not that I can recall anyway. Definitely not anyone that was really dissatisfied anyway.


I sell John Deere now but only tractors over 55 HP up to 530 HP so I'm not nearly as fmailliar with the JD compacts.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Kubota B7610 and couldn't be without it. When I was shopping I looked at both Deere and Kubota with the Deere being $500 more. I really don't like the plastic on the Deere but other than that I liked the machine...both were hydostat. I basically chose based off the dealer reputation. Although my tractor is only 24hp, it's got the ***** of a 40hp! I have a bushog, finish mower, grader blade, box blade, boom pole for loader and quick attach forks...very versital tractor.

How I made it "pre" front end loader I'll never know.

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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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My Kubota b2150 hydro has been real good.
I was also looking at the Ford/ New Holland It was a step up from the Kubota in my opinion. John Deere had too much electrical switches that were of questionable quality in my opinion.
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