well i am thinking about painting and semi restoring my grandpas D17

i was wondering what websites i can go to find out tons of info on the old tractor

i am hoping there is Allis chalmers fans on the forum


the serial number is D17 34859

if any body can tell me what year it is that would help me out and the paint color and color scheme of the tractor

thanks for your help

 

1961


www.allischalmers.com

That's a tractor forum like we have here...my brother gets on there, lots of decent info. Just ask questions, they'll point you in the right direction!

Just a warning though...there are as many options for orange paint as there are opinions...and they'll give them to you all! So unless you wanna shell out the money for OEM paint (which on a '61 I don't think it's too terrible...I'll check) it might not be "just right"

I'll look up the paint info and be back!
Chris

 

You can also go to tractordata.com and get some of the information on it. I think that connects with yesterdaystractor.com. Chris is right though, the correct color scheme for Allis is a mess to deal with. Everyone thinks something different. Although I think I am correct on a D17 that at least the rims should be silver and the middles should be orange (power shift rims). My dad grew up around them and said that they even came from the dealer with different colors depending on the dealer.

Good luck, they are pretty fun tractors to mess with. Right now I am working on a B for a friend and pretty soon will have a WD 45 Diesel to get painted up for my dad.

 

Rim color depends on the Series...which I think should be Series III on a 1961 model. The early ones were orange, with orange wheels...later ones were silver, with either orange or cream wheels.

Let me see what AGCO says!
Chris

 

thanks guys for the info

i really cant wait.

i grew up with them but i was young heck i am only 21 so when i was little they still looked the same

they still do farm work got to love the old tractors

plans for it sled puller and well just to sit and look good and work on the farm

 

Well, there you go. I know the cream color ones looked kinda to me. I think the orange/silver combo looks the best, but that's just me. I'll have to see if I can find a pic of the WD-45 diesel we fixed up for my brother.

 

Grew up on a WD-45 too. My brother and I used to go out and disc for my dad during the spring, and put up hay during the summer. Spent lots of days on one of those. At least they were diesel. . . . the bug was planted early.

 

we didnt get a diesel farm tractor intill last year and its allis d 21

but we have a family owned busses and diesel since i was a baby yeah for me

any ways we had WD, WD45, D15, D17, D 21

yeah we like the orange color alot

 

Here's the paint breakdown AGCO lists:
Sheet Metal ---> Persian Orange #2
Wheels (Centers) ---> Cream
Rims (outside, where he tire mounts) ---> Persian Orange #2, OR Cream
Chassis ---> Persian Orange #2
Misc ---> Cream

If you want, I can snap some pictures of our restored D17's and show you how they're laid out...we have some Series I's, II's, and III's...all restored by a really picky old AC dealer!

Chris
Chris

 

WE HAVE AN OLDFASHONED DAYS PARADE HERE IN OUR TOWN , THIS YEAR WE HAD A TRACTOR PARADE 319 TRACTORS PERTICAPATED, I WAS TALKING TO A CUPPLE OF THE GUYS DRIVING AC`S THERE IS A NATIONAL CLUB, LAST YEAR OWNERS FROM ALL OVER DROVE THEIR AC`S ON THE ROAD AND THEIR DESTENATION WAS WISCONSON WHERE THE FACTORY IS ,WHEN THRY REACHED THE FACTORY THEY DROVE THROUGH THE FACTORY WHERE THEY ORIGINATED AS PART OF A ANNEVERSHRY CELEBRATION,. TWO OF THE FELLOWS FROM HERE IN MICHIGAN DROVE ALL THE WAY THERE AND BACK ON THEIR AC`S. MY ONLY THOUGHT WAS WONDERED HOW MANY CALASES THEY HAD ON THEIR KEYSTER`S
CLAUDETEA BREWED IN KYLIE`S SOCK FOR ADDED FLAVOR,AHH GOOD

 

Me and my dad have a D17.....the year slips my mind though. I absolutely LOVE that tractor! It purrs like a kitten and pulls like no other.....best tractor we've had! I've been trying to talk my dad into helping me repaint it, kind of like a father son project! I think it'd be fun.



~Nick

 

thats cool

yeah my dad didnt help out much i was lets say grandpas kid

i did every thing with him on the farm and when he passed away it kinda went away from farm and just making hay

but i am going to redow the tractor in memory of my grandpa



any ways i have heard a little about he club that would be cool to join

AC tractors are awsome but its what i like.

heck all tractors are great

thanks for your help


IF you can can pics that would be great i think i am going to do all the orange on the wheels i love that color


Do the weights need painted different color?

 

The weights should be the same color as the wheel center's they're bolted to.

The "Old Allis News" is the national AC magazine, and right now, it's for sale. My Dad is very involved with the Ohio AC Club, the "Buckeye Allis Club" There are a few other regional clubs as well. Some thought has been put into buying the "Old Allis News" by a few people Dad knows, but nothing much is being done at this point...but I'll bet either way, there will still be a national club, and National Shows.

The tractor caravan to West Allis, WI was one of the "Gathering of the Orange" shows that happens in a few places each year...we really wanted to make it up to that one, but our schedules wouldn't allow it. We did make it to the one in Portage la Prarie, Ontario, Canada in 2005...they are really good shows if you like the old Orange machines.


I'll snap some pics this evening of the D17's...and probably a couple more of the rest of the collection. Right now, we're sitting somewhere between 110-120 tractors...mostly AC's, but some Deutz's, Case's, a couple Deere's...basically, we collect anything a little different...high crops, orchard tractors, foreign models, etc!

Chris

 

HECK yea we should start an AC club get back at those JD guys haha we have a d-17 series 4,220,two 440s,and a 8070 the d-17 was the first tractor dad bought to farm with right out of collage in 1978. go to you tube and type in allis chalmers 440 thats the tractor i refurbed knifing AA it's like a new one now.

 

The 440 is a Steiger Bearcat with a 555 Cummins V8 instead of the 3208 CAT...we have one, we're the second owner, 4500Hrs, with a complete service history. One of these days, we'll restore it...for now, we use it some

Ever see an AC Cotton Picker?
Chris