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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Well, thanks to all. I'm off to try and track a non-A/C belt down. Thanks Phox and Copenhagenjunkie for the offers. From now on I will carry 2 belts. One for A/C and one for fried A/C. Thanks again. Cody
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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That was cool of you two to offer the help.

As long as the "idler" pulley on the outside of the A/C clutch is spinning then you should be fine as long as you don't engage the A/C (cooling or defrost).

When you say the "A/C spins" do you mean the idler pulley or do you mean the pump itself? I would be amazed if the pump still spins after being red-hot. Since we're on the subject, which part was red-hot the pump or the clutch on the front?

No, you can't grease the bearings unless you completely disassemble the pump and even then it's doubtful. You will be better off getting new parts.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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He just called me.
He walked over to the other truck stop (there are 3 of them right there),
got ahold of Napa and they are running a non a/c belt out to him.


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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by phox_mulder
He just called me.
He walked over to the other truck stop (there are 3 of them right there),
got ahold of Napa and they are running a non a/c belt out to him.


phox
He should be up and running in no time.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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Just called again.
Got the belt installed, and it seems to be working OK.
He's on his way.


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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Good news! Phox, thanks for passing on the info.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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On some vehicles, you gotta watch rerouting the belt around the AC with the compressor in place. Sometimes, the back of the belt will hit the compressor wheel and smoke itself. A Ford we tried to help out in NC was like that and it would not run even with the AC passed.
I'm glad to know there are people out there to help.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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What a great group of people ive found on this site I see it more and more everytime I stop by.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by handymantim
That was cool of you two to offer the help.

As long as the "idler" pulley on the outside of the A/C clutch is spinning then you should be fine as long as you don't engage the A/C (cooling or defrost).

When you say the "A/C spins" do you mean the idler pulley or do you mean the pump itself? I would be amazed if the pump still spins after being red-hot. Since we're on the subject, which part was red-hot the pump or the clutch on the front?

No, you can't grease the bearings unless you completely disassemble the pump and even then it's doubtful. You will be better off getting new parts.
The pulley will spin until the clutch engages if the compressor is locked, unplug the wire and it should work.

I have repaired my AC unit on my Chevy 6.2 where the compressor had a broken valve plate and gave the system excessive head pressure, enough to burn the paint off the compressor and stall the engine. This was all the result of my fan clutch went out and was not moving enough air through the condenser and radiator.
Under the hood there should be a sticker showing the belt routing for both non-AC and with AC, The non-AC is a shorter belt.
(At least on my 1991)
I would like to hear the famous CUMMINS CHIRP while running panty hose.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 05:04 AM
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Pantyhose will not work in an application that requires a 7 rib serpentine belt to handle the load of this engine and it's accessories.....as the good Dr. mentioned, this old trick is a throw-back from the V-belt era. Yes, the non AC equipped trucks have a shorter belt with a different part # that will slip in place of the longer belt and bypass the AC compressor. Note that the belt routing is different so pay attention to the belt routing diagram.
The power steering pump I can see pulling a good load as it drives the steering and brake system. However the alternator and water pump will be fine with a pantyhose belt. I thought the same thing, how can a pair of nylons be any useful as a belt? Guy on another site had his belt (Ford) shred to pieces and was stranded at a truck stop. Long story short the pantyhose was his last option of desperation and it worked.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jrs_dodge_diesel
Guy on another site had his belt (Ford) shred to pieces and was stranded at a truck stop. Long story short the pantyhose was his last option of desperation and it worked.
I'd have loved to been there on that one. A guy walking around a truck stop asking ladies for their pantyhose
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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THANKS! Non-A/C belt works for A/C truck.

I just want to thank everyone on DTR and especially Phox and Copenhagenjunkie for all of the help. The non-A/C belt worked perfectly and I drove for 8-9 hrs. without ANY trouble. There is nothing better than good advice, especially when it's free! --cwbronc
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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Instead of a Truck of the Month we should have a DTR Member of the month!

Way to go guys!

Three cheers fer da BOYS!
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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Found the pantyhose post on the Ford site. Click here . Post #21 by Nonsmiley.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cwbronc
I just want to thank everyone on DTR and especially Phox and Copenhagenjunkie for all of the help. The non-A/C belt worked perfectly and I drove for 8-9 hrs. without ANY trouble. There is nothing better than good advice, especially when it's free! --cwbronc
Glad it all worked out.

Now we know, if we break down in Lakepoint Junction, Utah,
don't stop at the Flying J, make sure to pull into the TA across the street.



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