Yada, yada, yada. It doesn't work. It might work if you can convince a half-dozen major truckin' companies to do it. That's staying off the highway for a three days. Are you willing to compensate them for doing it?

 

I understand the fact someting has to give, but you can't have your cake and eat it to. Old storie, short term pain, long term gain. If fuel prices are not put into check inflation is going to go ramped, and WE the consumer will pay for it in the end. The two best way's to kill economic grouth FUEL and INTREST RATES

 

Except that you got it backwards. The government inflates the currency first and prices go up as a result.

BOHICA!

Edwin

 

even if everbody stopped buying gas or fuel for a day. just think about all the major airliners and military. i fly on the tanker and i thought about this last time i was deployed. we take off with 160,000 to 190,000 pounds of fuel. we will land with about 25,000 to 50,000. so even if you take the smallest amount that each tanker is flying that day that is still about 110,000 pounds. and you figure there are 50+ flying a day thats 5.5 million pounds of fuel in one day. that comes out to 820895 gallons of fuel. 6.7 pounds per gallon. so if you add some more numbers up, on that much fuel you would be able to drive 12,313,425 miles, on 15 miles a gallon, and if you could drive that you would circle the earth 513 times. and that is just the kc-135, not to mention that kc-10 which hold 300,000 pounds of fuel and all that other plnes in the inventory. i think that would be like me losing 10-20 dollars. not trying to prove anybody wrong but just something most people don't think about.

 

I hear you on how much fuel aviation uses, it's tens times more than on land usage.
Big concern is that when ultra low sulfur diesel comes in '07 is that if they try to add lubricity back to it at the refinery the additive will contaminate the nation's fuel pipelines for jet fuel which is the majority of the pipelines business. They're trying to come up with a standardized way around this problem before it hits but it may require depending on the stations to add the lubricity additive, not something you can always trust.

 

The best way to get fuel companies to lower fuel prices is for all of us to lower our consumption. Not by a single day boycott (which will do absolutely nothing) or a single brand boycott (which will also do absolutely nothing), but by lowering our overall consumption.

As drivers of big trucks, we're all some of the worst offenders. My plan is to ride my bike to work when the weather's warm. That'll cut my gas bill and reduce (by an eyedropperfull in an ocean, admittedly) consumption. But it's a start.

 

Finally, someone that is making sense.

 

I've burned about 8 gallons of gasoline in the past two weeks commuting on the Harley vs around 25 gallons during the same period in the truck.

 

There you go, what I just said above.
Ed, do they make a Harley with training wheels that I could ride?

 

Can you make your own diesel?

 

Here ya go:


From the Houston Motor Trike page

Saw 'em on "Corbin's Ride On" TV show on Speed last night.
~Rob

 

Bill, why should the gov't punish profitable companies? Is it fair for oil co's to be singled out?

Do we want to take steps towards Communism where the gov't says what is and is NOT allowed profit-wise?

Don't you trust market forces to do their thing?

The problem is not "evil corporations", imho. It's the gov't. They've made it so expensive to build refineries with all the EPA regs. Then you have the NIMBY factor.

Then there's all these custom-cocktail fuel blends for different regions, which kills economies of scale and drives prices up. If the Feds want to step in a throw their power around, why not dictate a standardized national fuel blend and force it upon the states? Why not environmental policy in general, by extension?

The CARB is the defacto EPA just because Cali has so many people, and manufacturers are rarely willing to cut themselves out of CA off the top WRT marketing.

A notable, pleasing exception is the fact that MB brought their C320CDI to market, even though it's only 45-state legal.

There's still hope.

jlh

 

Not yet................


www.lehmantrikes.com

 

Hohn, it's not like the petro companies are being singled out.
Most other industries don't increase their profits when the price of a raw material they use goes up, they keep their profits the same but increase the price of the finished product.

Since the oil companies have a virtually monopoly and government support they don't do this, they keep the percentage profit the same no matter what the production cost is.

I'll bet if you look at the profits of the oil companies that their increase in profits exactly matches the increase in the price of fuel for us. Looking at oil company profits it seems that every quarter sets a new record unless they have to clean up after an Exxon Valdez.

 

I like the bike idea a lot. Reduce the consumption, and prices should go down. Now I just need to scrape up some cash and buy a bike, insure it, and, ahem, convice the fiance' I'll be safe. I don't think it will work for me at this point.
What I can do is reduce my short trips around town. Groceries once per week instead of 3 times, one trip to the parts store instead of 2, no joy rides, etc, etc.
If I look, I see a lot of people driving around with nowhere to go, just cruising. It's wastefull and keeps the oil cmopanies happy and profitable.
Even if I reduce my consuption by driving less, what will happen in June when I want to hit the lake for the weekend and ride my Jet Ski? I'm screwed. I will not sacrifice fun with my family because of the oil companies,