The power numbers satisfy me. I have plenty of power, and I tow heavier than most. I'd like to see even a little less power and some better fuel mileage.

 

From what my people tell me neither will have the 07' emissions junk until jan-1-07.

 

No doubt- they've got to leave room to bump it up in '08+

 

If they release the 07.25 cab and chassis units with the 6.7 and no emissions gear and the Aisin 6 speed, they could be the most sought after diesel units for a very long time.

 

Luke, how did you order these? My dealer swears the ordering guide isn't out yet, and has yet to order an '07.

Michael

 

Ordering has been available on dealerconnect for a couple weeks on the pick-ups. Like I said, I have about 20 or so ordered and I have some on D1 for 7-14-06. I imagine the trucks built that early will sit in storage for at least a month and will go through extensive quality audit's before being shipped. 07' Ram chassis cabs are not available for ordering until July 10th, but that is a tentitive date, it may change. Job 1 on cab & chassis' will be august 10th, that is for gas engine's and diesel's with 6-speed manual's. Job 1 for diesel with 6-speed automatic won't be until september 10th.

 

Luke,

Does D1 = Job1? Sorry, I'm not familiar with the lingo.

I think I would rather order one later, than have it built and sitting in storage. Given this, when do you think I should order a 3500 pickup with diesel + 6-speed manual, and when it's Job 1 for that combo?

Thanks!

Michael

 

D1 is the day the that the plant estimate's it will roll down the assembly line. Usually accurate within a day. I wouldn't mind getting one of the first one's this year because they are not making any major changes and if it goes to storage for a couple weeks it'll be sure to have gone through a good quality audit. I don't know exactly what day job 1 is for the pick-ups but as I said before I have several with a ship date of 7-14, they will undoubtedly ship to storage for a couple two or three weeks though.

 

"Diesel Power" mag did a recent article on the 6.7 . Emissions eat so much power it has the same hp as the 5.9 .

 

Luke , are you going to swap the 5.9l for a new 6.7l for towing the carhauler when they are available ? DPF got you worried ?

 

Broker, probably not. Thinking of a Mega cab dually and going back to a two car trailer with two axles to get under 26k gross again. Haven't got nabed by the DOT yet but I fear it won't be long.

 

The Aisin tranny isn't even an option for the Cab & Chassis on TOPS right now. Which means they'll probably release it for mass consumption in Jan. The Asisin will be used in the main line Rams and Dodge is not going to produce a 'special 6 speed' they're smart enough not to reinvent the wheel twice. Besides the Aisin will give the Allison a run for it's money. Supposedly the new Aisin gets the same economy as the 6 speed manual, Dodge's plan is to shift people away from the 6 spd man and go comepletly automatic.

I can promise you the Aisin will be restricted when it becomes available for ordering. Dodge is the worst of the domesitics for having it's crap together on a launch. Happened when sunroof's came out for the 1500s, couldn't order them for 2 months. It's almost like they have a hard time comprehending that people might actually want the new feature.

As for the projections on the new 6.7, we're loosing 20HP, keeping the same torque and MPG is estimated to be between 6 & 8 MPG better then the 5.9. So if you're getting 18 on the highway with the 5.9, the 6.7 should be 24 to 26, pretty good.

As for the main line trucks, there is gonna have to be a power boost. Toyota has a 700 lb ft monster coming out this fall and GM is already ahead of the Cummins on power and torque (gag).

I'm not too worried about the new emissions equipment hurting the power of the engine. I think Dodge/Cummins/Mercedes purposefully detuned the 6.7 for the Cab and Chassis to boost the fuel economy and make them more attractive to business owners, better MPG = less operating cost. Dodge is keeping very quiet about what they going to do to the 2500/3500 trucks for 07. They're focusing on the Cab & Chassis right now, the launch begins in August. Dodge is also keeping the fact that they're going to produce a 4500 & 5500 on the down low. The 45 & 55 will only be available through BusinessLink dealers, probably show up for the 08 MYR.

 

Sorry if someone might not have posted this first but here's a theory. The Aisin could only be rated high enough for the current power level of 610 and the 68RE could be rated for a LBZ killer. The current power levels announced for the 6.7 has just been for the cab/chassis.
I wrote all of that before the I read the last post. LuciferX where do you get your info? Better mileage with more cubic inches? That would be wonderful, but I have got to see it to belive it. I can see the gains being the actual mileage.

 

Based on extrememly reliable insider postings from several web forums, the 68RE is real, it's coming, and it's going to be used on the HD trucks other than the cab and chassis.

If the 6.7 turns out to be getting a real world 6 mpg improvement over the 5.9, no one is going to have anything bad to say about all this emissions stuff and there will be a TON of new truck sales I project. I'll believe this when I see it. I'd like someone to explain how a 33% mpg improvement is achieved by adding horsepower robbing crapola. There would have to be a monumental leap in engine efficiency wouldn't there?

 

My info comes straight out of the horses mouth, via Auburn Hills. For those on this board who actually work at a Dodge dealer and have gone to their required training course i.e. 'What's New Dodge Brand'. They will know exactly what I'm refering to, since our trainers, DOMs, Reps and so forth have been cream'in their shorts talking up the advantages of the 6.7 especially in regard to increased fuel economy. I doubt very much that they're lying to us.

We'll just have to wait and see, won't be long now.