LWB 2500 4x4 in snow and ice? Is it scary?
Originally Posted by jon96ctd
the long wheelbase will help you as it takes a long time for the back end to come around, a lot of time to react and very forgiving. should be okay with the toyo AT's. i'm going to be looking for a set of AT's when my MT's wear out. if you can find an icy parking lot to play in that's a GREAT way to find the limitations of your truck. i do that with any car or truck i get, i go terrorize big parking lots and open roads(wet/dry/snow/ice) to find the limits/abilities of my vehicles so i know what kinds of manuvers i can do in an emergency. it's fun AND educational
it's so hard to explain things like that to the cop though...
it's so hard to explain things like that to the cop though...Agreed. I'm running toyo a/t's and they seem to do pretty good in the ice/snow.
And testing is good to do. From living in AK I'm in a habit of flooring it and/or emergency braking once or twice on open roads just to get a feel for how much traction I have
By accident, I found the city bus route gets a good salting so I've taken the bus route closest to home without incident for nearly 30 years. Living away from town, I do like to get out and ride a little in the snow whenever we get some here but it's getting mighty scarce the past few years.
The scary part is the other drivers around you , especially SUV's . As far as ice goes , don't try driving on it . When roads are wet watch for a spray from the the tires of vehicles around you . If no spray is coming up you are on ice . I had a parkway in KY turn to black ice in KY a few weeks ago . I saw ice form on my windshield and within 10 minutes there were 8 wrecks within 4 miles . An Suv tried passing an F350 with a fiver and put the 350 on its roof in the median . If the road turns to ice ease to the shoulder and park it until the road is safe . If you're parked and someone hits you there is no question of who is at fault .
I have 315-70-17 TKO BFG's that I put on 2 weeks after I bought the truck. We got 5-6" of snow last week, first one since I've owned it. It was a little tail happy in 2wd,but 4wh it was like a tank. The BFG's are amazing tires, never had a problem stopping, even on ice in 4wh. The truck weighs about 7000 lbs, so as long as you don't try to defy the laws of physics, it will do great. Just remember, they go better than they stop. It's not as nimble in snow as my AWD cars, but I don't worry about anyone crashing me either.
Originally Posted by RickG
If the road turns to ice ease to the shoulder and park it until the road is safe . If you're parked and someone hits you there is no question of who is at fault .
As long as you are OFF the road when you park it.
"I have a set of bf goodrich all terrains on my truck. i have never put any weight in the back of my truck for added traction and i have had absolutely no problems in the snow, ice or rain with the truck .(i live in western ny) it must be the way you drive it!-i guess!"
No, it's the road conditions, some of which are more forgiving than others. I've seen 4wd Jeeps with BFG ATs stall and start sliding backwards on the somewhat steep street that I live on, although they had done fine in snow, packed snow, and on hard ice. The tires didn't seem to always do well on 'soft ice', close to freezing, where a water film forms on tops with pressure, and where even studs may not have a strong enough layer to grab on to. Coworkers with large siped BFG ATs also said that they had problems on the ice, but the hills make it worse than it would otherwise be. Still, I've been on ice in the truck with 4wd engaged, with studded snow tires on all wheels, stopped while waiting for another truck to try pull someone out of a ditch, and sitting there the truck started slowly sliding towards the ditch. This is after having driven on I5 during an ice storm, with cars doing 360s in front me, cars in the ditches, some upside down. I chained up, and on the way home I only saw large 4wd vehicles with chains. The truck being as heavy as it is, with the square link chains on all wheels was like a tank with no loss of traction. I switched out of 4wd on a regular basis to keep the drivetrain from binding up, especially while turning. At work I overheard some people saying that even with chains their cars were sliding.
Be careful out there, Mother Nature likes to play game to see if you're still awake :^)
No, it's the road conditions, some of which are more forgiving than others. I've seen 4wd Jeeps with BFG ATs stall and start sliding backwards on the somewhat steep street that I live on, although they had done fine in snow, packed snow, and on hard ice. The tires didn't seem to always do well on 'soft ice', close to freezing, where a water film forms on tops with pressure, and where even studs may not have a strong enough layer to grab on to. Coworkers with large siped BFG ATs also said that they had problems on the ice, but the hills make it worse than it would otherwise be. Still, I've been on ice in the truck with 4wd engaged, with studded snow tires on all wheels, stopped while waiting for another truck to try pull someone out of a ditch, and sitting there the truck started slowly sliding towards the ditch. This is after having driven on I5 during an ice storm, with cars doing 360s in front me, cars in the ditches, some upside down. I chained up, and on the way home I only saw large 4wd vehicles with chains. The truck being as heavy as it is, with the square link chains on all wheels was like a tank with no loss of traction. I switched out of 4wd on a regular basis to keep the drivetrain from binding up, especially while turning. At work I overheard some people saying that even with chains their cars were sliding.
Be careful out there, Mother Nature likes to play game to see if you're still awake :^)
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Originally Posted by RickG
The scary part is the other drivers around you , especially SUV's . As far as ice goes , don't try driving on it . When roads are wet watch for a spray from the the tires of vehicles around you . If no spray is coming up you are on ice . .............. If the road turns to ice ease to the shoulder and park it until the road is safe . If you're parked and someone hits you there is no question of who is at fault .
Good advise except when you live in an area where the black ice stays for months, you get used to it.
Used to live up north in mt. all i can say is leave space between you and the rig ahead of you. there were many times when we used to have solid ice on the roads then when it would warm up enough the surface of the ice would thaw and spray but under it would still be ice and it was like vasaline and marbles. a little wieght in your bed goes a long ways no sudden movements left right or the brake pedal. if you start to spin put the clutch in let the tires pick up the slack the brake pedal is your worst enemy, sometimes you can power out of it, putting it in nuetral(hitting the clutch to let the tires regain free roll vs trying to power or resist will hell stabilize things. as soon as you hit the brake you are creating full resistance on the ice, same as when you let off the throtle and the engine starts to slow down creating drag on the tires both lead to loss of control
Good luck
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