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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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96% ! Wow, I amazed myself! Missed #16, it was a DOH! Now a little help on question 45 please. How can atmosphereic pressure change from one baloon to the other if they are all in the same atmosphere? Is atmospheric pressure not the same around all balloons? That one confuses me ......
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Not ashamed to admit I got a 60%.
Went back and read the results and it was stupidity on my part that I missed some.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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70% here. I'm at work so I rushed the awnsers. I'll try again later
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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I got a 92%. (I think I need glasses, couldn't see a few!)
VZdude, question 45 is based on gas laws, which says pressure times volume divided by temperature is constant. Since they didn't mention temperature, you can assume it is constant, so it drops out of the equation. Then you have pressure times volume is constant. If all the balloons have the same amount of gas, then the pressure has to reduce to increase the volume, and increase to reduce the volume.

I hope I got that rights, its been 25 years since chemistry class!
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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I got a 88% not bad for a computer junky. I also belive that 45 was a trick question both answers could have been right. Reminds me when I was in "A" scool in the military and you had to pick the most correct answer of more that one correct answer.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tractordan
I got a 92%. (I think I need glasses, couldn't see a few!)
VZdude, question 45 is based on gas laws, which says pressure times volume divided by temperature is constant. Since they didn't mention temperature, you can assume it is constant, so it drops out of the equation. Then you have pressure times volume is constant. If all the balloons have the same amount of gas, then the pressure has to reduce to increase the volume, and increase to reduce the volume.

I hope I got that rights, its been 25 years since chemistry class!
Dan
Exact quote of #45.........
The atmospheric pressure outside the balloons is highest on which balloon?
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Diurnal (daily) rhythm of air pressure in northern Germany (black curve is air pressure)


Atmospheric pressure is the pressure at any point in the Earth's atmosphere. In most circumstances atmospheric pressure is closely approximated by the hydrostatic pressure caused by the weight of air above the measurement point. Low pressure areas have less atmospheric mass above their location, whereas high pressure areas have more atmospheric mass above their location. Similarly, as elevation increases there is less overlying atmospheric mass, so that pressure decreases with increasing elevation. A column of air 1 square inch in cross section, measured from sea level to the top of the atmosphere, would weigh approximately 14.7 lbf. A 1 m² (11 sq ft) column of air would weigh about 100 kilonewtons (equivalent to a mass of 10.2 tonnes at the surface).


I can only assume after reading all of this, that the balloons are NOT all in the same place! In order for them to all have different atmoshperic conditions OUTSIDE of the balloon, they would in fact HAVE to be in different places. ( or different pressurized boxes, ect.)

Just hate vague questions like that!
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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I feel dumb next to you guys. Maybe thats why I dont work on cars or trucks. However I can build anything you want with wood.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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WOW...overthink often? They all used simple and basic concepts, theories and equations. It was noted in the beginning.
Ha, I'm an engineer... and if they're going to give a test, you'd think they'd at least give you the right answers to choose from

But I guess when you're wrenching on Fords you have to come up with an alternate reality to get you through the day
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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84% Suprised I got most of the electrical questions right, I am not much of an electrician.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by vzdude
Exact quote of #45.........
The atmospheric pressure outside the balloons is highest on which balloon?
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Diurnal (daily) rhythm of air pressure in northern Germany (black curve is air pressure)


Atmospheric pressure is the pressure at any point in the Earth's atmosphere. In most circumstances atmospheric pressure is closely approximated by the hydrostatic pressure caused by the weight of air above the measurement point. Low pressure areas have less atmospheric mass above their location, whereas high pressure areas have more atmospheric mass above their location. Similarly, as elevation increases there is less overlying atmospheric mass, so that pressure decreases with increasing elevation. A column of air 1 square inch in cross section, measured from sea level to the top of the atmosphere, would weigh approximately 14.7 lbf. A 1 m² (11 sq ft) column of air would weigh about 100 kilonewtons (equivalent to a mass of 10.2 tonnes at the surface).


I can only assume after reading all of this, that the balloons are NOT all in the same place! In order for them to all have different atmoshperic conditions OUTSIDE of the balloon, they would in fact HAVE to be in different places. ( or different pressurized boxes, ect.)

Just hate vague questions like that!
It never says they are in the same atmosphere... so if all the balloons had the same amount of gas in them, then the one that is held the smallest would have the most pressure exerted on it.. I think??
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Truckman0097
It never says they are in the same atmosphere... so if all the balloons had the same amount of gas in them, then the one that is held the smallest would have the most pressure exerted on it.. I think??
It never said they weren't either! LOL Like I said.......dang vague questions! I'm not so **** that I can't stand being wrong, just want to understand why!
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by vzdude
It never said they weren't either! LOL Like I said.......dang vague questions! I'm not so **** that I can't stand being wrong, just want to understand why!
I agree, someone brought up Temp before.. if they were in the same atmosphere and same gas inside, then Temp would be the determining factor... so it is pretty vague, since they only gave one variable... I guess they force you to assume Temp is same?
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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86%. I wish I looked the glass to see where I went wrong, bummer.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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I missed 4 questions-- shoulda missed only one but I rushed because I was feeling cocky after doing a couple.

The baloon question is vague, yes. But if they have the SAME amount of gas (moles) then you should be able to reason that the size of the ballon is purely a function of pressure.

But it's wrong of them temp expect a person to assume that they are in different pressures and simultaneously assume the temps are the same. It shouldbe consistent.

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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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96% did it seven minutes, read it, answered it, easy, and sum dumb ones, like to talk to the person how wrote that one.

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