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Old Feb 3, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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Dump truck or dump trailer??

I have an opportunity to get as many loads of fill dirt as I want. Instead of paying someone 75.00 per load to haul it for me (12-15 mile round trip) Thought I might try to buy either a good used tandem axle dump truck or a goose neck dump trailer to haul behind either my 96 CTD or my 2010 4WD CTD. Both are 3/4 ton trucks.
A couple of questions or issues. From what I understand If I register it as a farm truck I don't need a CDL. Anyone from Texas know the specifics on this?
I do live on a farm and I would be hauling farm materials (dirt, cottonseed meal and/or compost)
Missed out on what looked to be a heck of a deal for a truck about a week back. Could buy a dump trailer instead to tow with the pickup but I worry that it may not hold up well?
Your thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!!!
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 08:43 AM
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I can't say down there, but around here, anytime I see a heck of a deal on a big dump, it is because it is going to take some serious money to make it safe.

A dump trailer might make more sense, you can find them around here ( 14-20 K GVW ) for 4-6K and they generally work well.

How many loads had you considered getting?
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 09:49 AM
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I can't say down there, but around here, anytime I see a heck of a deal on a big dump, it is because it is going to take some serious money to make it safe.

A dump trailer might make more sense, you can find them around here ( 14-20 K GVW ) for 4-6K and they generally work well.

How many loads had you considered getting?
100 plus!!
It's overburden from the quarry of a cement plant. I used to work there and I'm pretty close friends with the plant manager and quarry manager.
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 05:16 PM
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Whoa, I would probably consider the truck then, are you going to re-sell or for personal use ( makes more trips if selling )
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 06:22 PM
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Whoa, I would probably consider the truck then, are you going to re-sell or for personal use ( makes more trips if selling )
Probably not. My house is built on a rock .8 acres of it. I mainly just want to cover it all with enough soil that grass will actually grow. And there are a few holes to fill in. there is another 30 acres that I can use to store up more to sell if I choose to though.
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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My vote is for the tandem dump trailer, (not a gooseneck) I bought a new one about 5 years ago and I've really used it for all kinds of things other than dumping stuff, I even haul my skid steer in it even though I have a trailer designed just for that. I would suggest getting a roll up cover up tarp for it, worth every penny to avoid fines when going to the dump or hauling light weight material. I made some removable high stake pocket sides for it to increase the volume when hauling light material.
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 10:30 PM
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I normally would say get a good GN dump trailer. But that amount of dirt is a lot. Even if you paid 15K for a dump truck, hauled all the loads, cleaned up the truck and got your 15k back, basically all you would have invested is time, fuel, and insurance.
$75 a load for only a 12-15 mile round trip seems kinda steep. might try finding another company to truck it.
Otherwise, Id be buying a truck and haul it yourself
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Old Feb 5, 2014 | 08:22 AM
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We recently brought in fill dirt and some gravel from a local gravel pit, maybe 4 miles round trip. $75 per load, overloaded tri-axle, including buying the material, fill or screened gravel same price.
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Old Feb 5, 2014 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by roughstock
I normally would say get a good GN dump trailer. But that amount of dirt is a lot. Even if you paid 15K for a dump truck, hauled all the loads, cleaned up the truck and got your 15k back, basically all you would have invested is time, fuel, and insurance.
$75 a load for only a 12-15 mile round trip seems kinda steep. might try finding another company to truck it.
Otherwise, Id be buying a truck and haul it yourself
This is also more my thinking.

That is a LOT of dirt.
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Old Feb 5, 2014 | 09:36 AM
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As of today I have three one ton dual wheel dodge diesels and a dump truck. With all things considered (safety being the main one). I would not consider using a trailer for what you are talking about.The dump totally wins the vote (in my opinion).
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Old Feb 5, 2014 | 09:40 AM
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Red face

Shoulda said dump truck.
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Old Feb 5, 2014 | 10:43 AM
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My vote is for a truck.....

Trailer will bring many "borrowers" forward....

Truck takes fuel and more skill to borrow..

Just my opinion, but borrowed trailers usually return worse for wear.....
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Old Feb 5, 2014 | 10:50 AM
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first question is access. safety minded stuff.

for that weight of material, a ten wheeler really should be considered for economical load, safety, and stable operation on site.

1 ten wheeler= 8 six wheeler loads (small dump truck -chevy C60)
dual axle trailer dump is 7 loads, over level
1.5 cu yard dump box is 12 loads

convenience? finances? biggest consideration

small dump is non CDL and farm plates, trailer is a good re sale but will get beat up, second effort for grading too but can work right away and not hurt the bank account.

for me? Texas-the land of no rust? get a '77 ford dump and have a blast!
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Old Feb 5, 2014 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Justwannabeme
first question is access. safety minded stuff.

for that weight of material, a ten wheeler really should be considered for economical load, safety, and stable operation on site.

1 ten wheeler= 8 six wheeler loads (small dump truck -chevy C60)
dual axle trailer dump is 7 loads, over level
1.5 cu yard dump box is 12 loads

convenience? finances? biggest consideration

small dump is non CDL and farm plates, trailer is a good re sale but will get beat up, second effort for grading too but can work right away and not hurt the bank account.

for me? Texas-the land of no rust? get a '77 ford dump and have a blast!
From what I can gather any dump with farm plates used for farm materials (dirt is a farm material???) is non CDL but I may be wrong.
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 04:23 PM
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U need insurance for the truck, prob not needed for the trailer. Trailer is easier to store and sell if not being used. Cheaper to register a trailer.
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