i'm a rural bulk fuel driver for a cenex dist., they're rep said that there are no gov. standards for diesel like gasoline. he was claiming that cenex caters to agriculture and that cenex fuel is a premium fuel. however i know that our tankers get filled at a williams pipline facility so maybe he is full of it. i have noticed that their premium fuel(Roadmaster) smokes alot less than staight #2 but is $.03 more per gallon. i also like their wintermaster fuel. it's roadmaster with addative good to -35 degree's. i've had no trouble's with that. i will have to ask the next tanker driver how the fuel is loaded.

 

Ok I have a big question that I have been tryint to investigate. You tanker drivers should know. Where is the blending done for the winter fuel? Does it come out of the pipeline as straight #2 and then blended or is it blended at the refinery before it hits the pipeline. I seem to get a better blend at one particular Texico at the state line. It is either not blended or is less blended. For my use I need to purchase straight #2 none of this winter blend. Give me an idea of how this works and where to start looking.

 

It is not blended at the refinery. It travels through the pipeline as a distinct product, ie #1 or #2 to the distribution terminal. The distribution terminal has storage tanks for #1 and #2 and spouts to load either onto the truck, but not blended. The actual mixing usually occurs while loading the truck. The blend ratio is the choice of the station operator.

If straight #2 is what you want, you'll have to ask around. Some truck stops advertise this, but in winter most pumps labeled #2 are actually a blend.

 

Haulin_in_Dixie
Looks like cp answered your question.
Cp who do you haul for & where? I went back to Michigan years ago to see family & they haul some pretty big loads. I think around 16,000 gals of gas grossing around 165,000lbs. Here in Oregon I haul 11,600 gas at 105,500lbs.

 

And we wonder why the new roads are so busted up?

 

Figure up the loading per tire.....it ain't that high. The bridges take more of a beating, but that's why we have bridge laws. The new roads are busted up because they're p-ss poor to start with, and lastly, trucks don't drive on the roads for free--they pay road use tax and fuel tax, from which road construction is funded.

Tankeryanker, I don't haul any more. The last load of fuel I hauled was on 12/31/94. Our loads were light by comparison to yours--all you can bridge around here with 5 axles is 80,000, so that's what we shot for. That equates to around 7500 gallons of #2 or 9000 gallons of gas in our tankers which weighed aout 25000 empty. My family was involved in trucking in Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Arkansas, and Texas. We hauled grain, feed, sand, rock, fuel, fertilizer, soap, salt, dog food, machinery, hay....I can't remember what else. So I'm drawing on foggy memory but some of it is pretty well burned in, such as firing up frozen trucks at 3 a.m. to start a 14 hour day. That part, I don't miss. But I probably should have stayed with it, because being a desk jockey, as I am now, is even less fun. I now work with men whose lifelong experience consists of wearing a rut in the road from their house to a desk. Never did anything else. I can't imagine living an entire life like that.

 

induchman Like cp said our axle rateing is less than a 18 wheeler. I drive a four axle truck & pull a four axle trailer, 16,000lbs per axle spread out over 75ft.

cp I don't think I'd be happy driveing a desk.

 

Haulin, The "tank farm" as it's called is down on I-65, That's the main distribution point for all the fuel and gas in this area, the fueling staions for the tankers is in wenonah. If anyone will stop at the tank farm and look at where the BIG pumps are, you'll see some round "plugs", these are the same size as the lines, they place these in the lines between the gas or fuel grades that they are pushing. From what I've been told when working on the vapor recovery pumps at these places "it all came from the same dino". We've even seen some pumps that where repaired 1 month, and then the next eaten slap up, customer screamed warranty, but after pressing the issue, they and our lawyer found that a some of the trucks hauling "gas" was also hauling some very bad crap that they where not supposed to, they had enough residue left in the tankers to be pulled over into the vacuum pumps and eat up the cast iron, the trucking company had to pay to replace the pumps and completely redo the charcoal beds. If I remember right, Chevron had the most problems with their pumps, but this has been a few years back. It'd be to costly for a single company to have their own dedicated lines. To everyone here, as has already been said, buy your fuel at a place that sells a lot of it

 

This is a real interesting thread. Sort of a "this is the way it's really done, but don't worry about it" thread.

Thanks for the info. I enjoyed the read.

 

Where I used to live, the bridges were limited to 17t (34000#) and we had loggers and tankers at 65000#. You do the math.

 

What people do illegally is a moot point. What are you going to do, ban all trucks because some won't obey the laws? If so, you're going to get awfully tired of walking to work.

 

Was these tandem tankers? The biggest tanker I use was about 9k gallon capacity from Hobbs. Want to see some big tankers? Do a search for Australian road trains.

MikeyB

 

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Can you burn kerosene?

 

Kerosene and #1 diesel are the same thing. You can use kerosene but will have to add lubricity additive as it is very dry and will destroy your injection pump.
#1 is also lower in btus, your mileage and power will suffer.