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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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Making biodiesel

Hopefully this subject hasn't come up too much, but would any of you know a good website that I could go to for good instructions on how to start making my own biodiesel? I know it was on Trucks, but I was looking for something I could refer back to. Any information would be appreciated!

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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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Do A Google seach for Appleseed processor.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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This should be of help.
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x
http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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Thanks guys- I'm gonna check it out now.

Wow- tons and tons of information!
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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I'm thinking of trying the same, but have been reading a lot of conflicting stories about it. Some say not to use in their trucks and others say only 20% maximum. Does anyone have any solid info (good or bad) about using biodiesel in a cummins?
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 05:47 AM
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I looked into it and decided I didn't want to take on a second job just to save a few cents.

Milage is lower, power is lower, shorter fuel filter intervals, and risk of messing up a $1600 pump add up to not worth the trouble.

Also the people pushing it are a bunch of greenies trying to take out "EVIL BIG OIL". they're the same ones who won't let us drill for oil or build refineries, the main reason we're in this mess imho

But then again if you want a hobbie, it might be fun trying.

I tryed it, didn't get the mix right and ended up with glop
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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My experiments show mileage is up. Between .5 and 2 mpg.
This is Bio, not just waste cooking oil. It is transesterficated.
I have been running anywhere from 20 to 50%.
Motor is noticably quieter, less smoke, and more throttle response.

Your truck will like it.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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the people pushing it are a bunch of greenies
You calling George Bush a greenie?
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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that is funny!!!
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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If you think that george is against oil companies, yes
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tenbrooks
Also the people pushing it are a bunch of greenies trying to take out "EVIL BIG OIL". they're the same ones who won't let us drill for oil or build refineries, the main reason we're in this mess imho
Yeah, some of those websites are enough to make blood spurt out of my eyes. A lot of the people making homemade biodiesel are real wackos. I can identify with the ones who are doing it because it's cheap - I'm a cheapskate myself. The ones who are doing it to save the planet or so they don't participate in the immoral capitalist economy, well... Good luck to ya, and please add a little deodorant to that biodiesel byproduct you bathe with.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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I make bio diesel for .65 cents a gallon, it takes me about 1 hour of my time to produce a 30 gallon batch. The process actually takes longer, but that is the time involved by me, everything else is automated.

My truck runs better, runs smoother, allot less noise in the injection pump. The reasons? Higher cetane, and BETTER lubrication to the entire fuel system. Something that you VP guys should think about. ULSD is not gonna make your injection pump last longer!

The fuel system is clean as a whistle due to the cleaning properties of bio, the smoke is allot less, the local farmers put the money in their pockets instead of the Arabs, and I like keeping my money. I have better things to spend it on.

I voted for Bush, and I have to give him credit for the stand he has taken, considering his family made money from oil, but I am not here to get into politics, and I m not sure he has the answer, I just felt I needed to inform the misinformed people out there about the realities of bio diesel.

It is a good fuel, and the diesel engine was originally designed to run on peanut oil, as Rudolph Diesel felt it would be of benefit for the farmer to be able to produce his own fuel. Just like I am doing.

I love not having to buy fuel! When I do buy diesel in the winter, I try to blend in as much bio as the weather will allow me to.

And when a "greenie" gives me lip about driving a big fuel guzzling, polluting diesel, I can shove it right back at him and tell him that I get 30% more MPG's in this diesel than I would with a gas engine in it, AND I use a fuel from a renewable resource, that produces less green house gases than burning non renewable fossil fuels. Yes that does sound green, but in all honesty, I don't care. I stay informed so I can shove it right back down their uninformed throats.

So keep telling people that it sucks, that way I have an easier time getting my oil for free, BTW, my budy heats his 40x30 pole barn with it, and it is always 70 degrees (WVO fired boiler/in floor radiant heat). He says that there is no way he could afford to heat his shop with out using the used oil as he gets his for free as well.

Well, time to go bash a baby seals head in, kill a whale, chop down some trees for fun, and pour some motor oil down the drain.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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Most of our oil comes from canada and mexico, so moneys not really going to the Irabs hand.

But by making your own fuel, you are contributing to degrading road conditions, since those taxes youve just illegally evaded pay for road maintenance.

Bio is good, but with all the variables and legalitys, it makes sense to stick to purchasing it not making it.

Support Americas economy, dont trash it.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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You can make as much as 400 gallons a year before taxes are required. It is not the tax that we want to avoid. I believe in paying my share.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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If it works for you, great. More power to ya

I can't fit finding a source for wvo, methanol and drain cleaner then going to pick it all up plus mixing the chemicals into an hour. I guess I'm a slow mover.

Not to mention the cost of getting set up, storing hazardous chemicals, getting required permits and documentation.

I'd rather give my money to oil producers than to non-producing gov. officials and give-away programs. oil is cheap, the taxes on it are outrageous. we pay more than our fair share. There should be enough detainees in this country to build the finest roads in the world. at least better than north carolina's

If the government and the ISP's start taxing the internet, are we going to go back to using typewriters and mailing correspondance? HMMM

Oil has more btus than bio thus making the engine more efficient.

Gas engines need to be banned, they are inefficient polluters that are destroying mother earth (j/k) I hear tell we only have 10 years left

The reason the engine is quieter is that injection timing is retarded by the slow igniting fuel.

The cleaning properties (abrasives) are going to wear out the pump faster imo.

If you run a farm and have the fuel supplies (peanuts or corn) readily, then make all the fuel you can use and market it to make a dollar by all means

I never mentioned that it sucks, I just said I looked into and it doesn't seem that worthwhile to me. I still have the appleseed processor in my favorites just in caseoil goes to $150 a barrell

I described to a wise man about making it, his reply " If it's so good and been around for so long then why hasn't someone built an infrostructure to produce it while making a profit from it ?"

I think it's fantastic to heat a shop on waste veg oil especially when it's free.
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