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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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Difference between #1 and #2 Diesel

I have been asking aournd lately and have not been able to get a straight answer. What are the major differences between number 1 and 2 diesel? I noticed that one of the truck stops here sells both #1 and #2 year around which suprised me. Their #1 is about 10 cents more expensive than #2.

I always thought that #2 diesel was the winterirzed blend? Is that correct? I had a person the other day tell me I should pay the extra 10 cents and buy the #1 diesel cause it has better lubrication properties, ext.

Any of this true?? Thanks in Advance for the help guys!!
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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#1 is kerosene
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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there is no lubrication to #1
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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So is that the main reason #1 fuel is more expensive out here? I take it it is a safe blend to use?
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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i wouldnt think it to be safe to use by itself
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Interesting...The when i asked the guy at the truck stop about it he said they have semi's that run it year around. But who knows how much credit to put towards his comment.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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People do run it year round. The only difference is the viscosity, #1 is lower viscosity (thinner). Some engines are only certified for #1, but you can run #1 in any diesel engine anytime of the year, despite what people think it will lube everything just fine.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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So is there any benefit in running #1 instead of #2?
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dwitt0187
#1 is kerosene
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there is no lubrication to #1
Not quite. #1 is different than Kero. Kero has NO lube at all, #1 has a little but no where near as much as #2

#1 has had more of the Parafin (wax) taken oout of it so that it won't gell as easily. As a result of that refining process, there are also less BTU's per gallon in #1. Less BTU = Less power.

If you are going to operate in cold (below freezing for prolonged times)temps #1 is the way to go just be sure to use a good Lubricity additive to make up for the Drier (less lubricity) fuel.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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i agree with ofcmarc, when it gets cold out use #1 , so you wont gel up, and an additive for the lube. run #2 otherwise. there isnt a need to run #1 in our trucks when it is warm out, no benifits, and it cost more money.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ofcmarc
Not quite. #1 is different than Kero. Kero has NO lube at all, #1 has a little but no where near as much as #2

#1 has had more of the Parafin (wax) taken oout of it so that it won't gell as easily. As a result of that refining process, there are also less BTU's per gallon in #1. Less BTU = Less power.

If you are going to operate in cold (below freezing for prolonged times)temps #1 is the way to go just be sure to use a good Lubricity additive to make up for the Drier (less lubricity) fuel.
Perfectly said.

#1 Burns around 137,000 BTU, while #2 burns around 142,000 BTU I believe, which makes quite a difference in regards to power and fuel mileage. Once I start switching over to #1, I notice a good decrease in MPG *thumbs down*
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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Ok...Is there that big of a difference between when the two fuels gel? I have tried to find more reading material online...but it all seems to be over my head
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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#2 starts gelling @ +12 F and #1 starts @ -10 f. I disagree about less lubricity than #2, I have first hand experience with running over 200 ISC & ISL CTD going on 4 + years without any fuel system problems and zero additive used.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Stovetop535
Interesting...The when i asked the guy at the truck stop about it he said they have semi's that run it year around. But who knows how much credit to put towards his comment.
I don't even know where you would find #1 year around. My 06 has never had a gallon of #1 diesel and I live in ND (I add Howes) For the last few years when it gets cold out #1 will be .30-.40 cents more per gallon then #2. You can feel the power loss when you run it and the fuel mileage goes down.
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