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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:50 AM
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5% Biodiesel - Will it help any

Up here in Alberta we have a new law mandating that all fuels sold must contain at least 5% biofuels. That means ethanol for gasoline and biodiesel for diesel fuels. Can any of you guys that run biodiesel on a regular basis tell me if I will notice any difference with 5% biodiesel content. I`m wondering if this will be high enough to clean the system and cause some filter plugging.

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Old May 22, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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If you have a dirty tank you may go thru fuel filters a little more often at first.. but otherwise it will be mostly transparent.

You should notice a quieter, smoother running truck and more fuel pressure thou.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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Ran 10% BIO while I could get it, no problems. Did get a quieter motor and more fuel pressure though.
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Old May 29, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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Just topped of the tank from half yesterday at Flying J and noticed a sticker on the pump that said B5 Biodiesel. The price was the same as almost 2 weeks ago when there was no sticker. Hope it is true.
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Old May 30, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AH64ID
If you have a dirty tank you may go thru fuel filters a little more often at first.. but otherwise it will be mostly transparent.

You should notice a quieter, smoother running truck and more fuel pressure thou.
This is what I encountered when I first started using B5 at the pumps a few yrs back. I have not used any that I am aware of for awhile so I may have to do the filter change again soon.
The change in the sound of the motor was noticeable.
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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Here in MN we now have 5% bio. I have over 200k on this stuff and no problems at all. I changed fuel filters a few times early on. The current filter has at least 15k on and the FP is still steady at 13psi and 9-10 WOT.

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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Here in MN we now have 5% bio. I have over 200k on this stuff and no problems at all. I changed fuel filters a few times early on. The current filter has at least 15k on and the FP is still steady at 13psi and 9-10 WOT.

I guess I always try to be the front runner regardless of the cost. When the government started removing the sulfur from diesel first down to 500 ppm and now down to 15 ppm I was in a panic. The sulfur in diesel was about the only lubricant in fuel, once removed the friction factor comes in. Then I read everything I could get my hands on and when I thought I was ready I purchased a Biodiesel plant, small 40 gallon batches. I have a good friend who teaches at MSU and he checked the batches. It was trail and error then after 2 batches I had it. I had a 05 5.9 at the time and I ran 20% blend, ran it in my Kubota 50HP and for the most part had no problems. The only problem I saw was on my tractor where the line comes from the tank to the filter housing which is a glass sight type. The biofuel loosened I guess settlement in the line in the form of a thin half the diameter of the hose which blocked the filter. Biodiesel in a nut shell is made by using Sodium Hydroxide & Methonal and regardless how well it's made it's not a perfect science. The residule Caustic & Methonal will clean anything it comes in contact with that has particals attached to it. It will also remove paint, right now! If your truck is pretty new you have nothing to worry about (as long as you have a spare filter behind the seat). The upside to it is your injector pump gets lubricated, according the "National Biodiesel Org" as little as 2% will bring diesel back to it's original lube assist state. When I travel if I don't have a jug in the truck I add a 2 cyclle oil to have at least a 200/1 ratio. Maybe I'm paranoid but a diesel engine cost too much to repair. Now if you have a new 6.7 don't put any type of 2 cycle oil, make a bold attempt to get the biodiesel blend.
Hope this helps,
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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I believe The Dieselpage's additive test...2% bio for me.
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AH64ID
If you have a dirty tank you may go thru fuel filters a little more often at first.. but otherwise it will be mostly transparent.

You should notice a quieter, smoother running truck and more fuel pressure thou.
The percentage of bio won't hurt anything but it does have a cleansing affect on the fuel system. Like Scotty said, you may need to change filters a little more often. Better have a couple extras and the tools behind the seat.
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by HL649
Up here in Alberta we have a new law mandating that all fuels sold must contain at least 5% biofuels. That means ethanol for gasoline and biodiesel for diesel fuels. Can any of you guys that run biodiesel on a regular basis tell me if I will notice any difference with 5% biodiesel content. I`m wondering if this will be high enough to clean the system and cause some filter plugging.

Thanks
I started the biodiesel quest for two reasons, lubricity and
free cooking oil & methanol. First according to "Biodiesel.org"
they have tested the new 15 ppm fuel and found that as little
as 2% biodiesel will equal the diesel that had as much as 7%
sulfur which lubricates your moving parts in the fuel system.
Now if you have an older engine without all the EPA mods you
can use 2 cycle oil. Diesel truck mag says as little as a 200
to 1 ratio will lube all the parts. Don't put 2 cycle oil in a engine
that has a particulate filter.

Hope this helps. Go on biodiesel org and have a read on
lubricity benefits.

Danny
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HL649
Up here in Alberta we have a new law mandating that all fuels sold must contain at least 5% biofuels. That means ethanol for gasoline and biodiesel for diesel fuels. Can any of you guys that run biodiesel on a regular basis tell me if I will notice any difference with 5% biodiesel content. I`m wondering if this will be high enough to clean the system and cause some filter plugging.

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I run Jet A with straight bio for an aditive I mix up 1 pint to 10 gal ruffly, Its great lube. also run in my car vw tdi 272000 miles on her and still running great.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kdavis80s
I run Jet A with straight bio for an aditive I mix up 1 pint to 10 gal ruffly, Its great lube. also run in my car vw tdi 272000 miles on her and still running great.
From what I've been told I would think you would want be using no less then 1 gallon of B100 to 30 gallons of Jet A to make sure you have enough lube in the fuel.
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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From what I've been told I would think you would want be using no less then 1 gallon of B100 to 30 gallons of Jet A to make sure you have enough lube in the fuel.
I only did that for one summer, this summer it was hit and miss with any additive. My co-worker bought vw brand new off the line in 2000, it now has 340,000 miles on it, he did the usual wear out replacement parts but for the motor , pump, injectors, never touched it besides timing belt and water pump, every mile was jet a and I know 200k of that was with out any additive out of pure lazyness. yes the IP is a little loud compared to others with high miles but it is still running great. all winter I run something for an additive. So this is and will be the big question, do you really need a lot of lube in jet A? who knows, so far the 5 of us use these cars with 270k + we all are doing something a little different and they all running with no problems. just my 2 cents.
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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What's the going rate for Jet A? I thought it was more expensive than diesel?
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisJohnson
What's the going rate for Jet A? I thought it was more expensive than diesel?
It is, but it depends how you can get it.
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