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rockcrawler304 06-06-2008 02:54 PM

$139 a barrel...This can't be good
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080606/..._ge/oil_prices


Someone (or many) at Morgan Stanley have a lot of stock in the oil markets [verymad][verymad]

If these people would keep their mouth shut the prices would probably stabalize for more than a week!!!

Tee 06-06-2008 03:38 PM

Why would they keep thier mouth shut, they are heavily leveraged in oil. Oil was going down all week and they were in a position to loose lots O $$$. Make a prediction, boom INSTANT REVERSAL OF THE MARKET TO THIER FAVOR....

ian515 06-06-2008 04:20 PM

this is why I ran out and filled up the tank, most likely tomorrow it will be back up to 4.70-4.80....we were actually DOWN to 4.55! and i thought that was awesome....how sad.

rockcrawler304 06-06-2008 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Tee (Post 2107980)
Why would they keep thier mouth shut, they are heavily leveraged in oil. Oil was going down all week and they were in a position to loose lots O $$$. Make a prediction, boom INSTANT REVERSAL OF THE MARKET TO THIER FAVOR....

You are exactly right!!! They were about to loose big cash and had to do something. That is twice in a row Morgan Stanley "Predicts" a higher price and BAM.... the price jumps the NEXT day [verymad]

MikeyB 06-06-2008 06:50 PM

Also add Goldman Sachs into the manipulation today.

MikeyB

chipmonk 06-06-2008 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by MikeyB (Post 2108182)
Also add Goldman Sachs into the manipulation today.

MikeyB

yup! it's been going on for several years, and they've been investigated for it.
http://wearesc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39136

infidel 06-07-2008 09:29 AM

Did the price of oil really go up or the value of the US dollar go down?

dodgeguy71 06-07-2008 09:30 AM

It's been going down for about the last two weeks and it was at a low of about 122 this week. It rose $10 and some change friday because someone said something about a weaker dollar or thought that a weaker dollar something.....kinda gets your head to spinnin when you know oil prices are down $12-14 and they don't lower pump prices then someone spills a quart of crude and AHHHHH!!! Up and away they go. I say investigate them, stick it to them........they do it to us.

rockcrawler304 06-08-2008 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by dodgeguy71 (Post 2108644)
It's been going down for about the last two weeks and it was at a low of about 122 this week. It rose $10 and some change friday because someone said something about a weaker dollar or thought that a weaker dollar something.....kinda gets your head to spinnin when you know oil prices are down $12-14 and they don't lower pump prices then someone spills a quart of crude and AHHHHH!!! Up and away they go. I say investigate them, stick it to them........they do it to us.


Yup. I wish the oil and investment companies would be watched closer and the REAL information be given to the media. But we all know that will NEVER happen. [verymad]

Colo_River_Ram 06-09-2008 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by infidel (Post 2108642)
Did the price of oil really go up or the value of the US dollar go down?

The answer is "E" all of the above!

Common 06-09-2008 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by infidel (Post 2108642)
Did the price of oil really go up or the value of the US dollar go down?

Went up $11 on Friday

rockcrawler304 06-09-2008 11:48 AM

They are "Predicting" gas will jump another .10 a gallon in the next 3-4 days [verymad] With that news I bet it jumps by TOMORROW!!!

chipmonk 06-09-2008 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by rockcrawler304 (Post 2110787)
They are "Predicting" gas will jump another .10 a gallon in the next 3-4 days [verymad] With that news I bet it jumps by TOMORROW!!!

the key is understanding who 'they' are, and that their predictions DO move the market, and that 'they' hoard oil that was headed for the market, to artificially manipulate supply. investment banks are doing a lot more harm to us, than just speculating on future prices, and it sure helps that they only have to abide by a small % of the trading regulations, that the rest of the commodities markets have to follow (thanks to enron, and some politicians who agreed that they shouldn't have to be burdened by normal rules of commodities trading).

rockcrawler304 06-09-2008 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by chipmonk (Post 2110897)
the key is understanding who 'they' are, and that their predictions DO move the market, and that 'they' hoard oil that was headed for the market, to artificially manipulate supply. investment banks are doing a lot more harm to us, than just speculating on future prices, and it sure helps that they only have to abide by a small % of the trading regulations, that the rest of the commodities markets have to follow (thanks to enron, and some politicians who agreed that they shouldn't have to be burdened by normal rules of commodities trading).

You are so very right.
The people that manipulate things are not at all worried about the price of a gallon of gas or a loaf of bread either. That is what is really killing us "Common folk"

tx_2500 06-09-2008 01:51 PM

I havent looked at diesel as I filled up 3 weeks ago and my truck hasnt moved since. I had to fill up the bike this morning. GAS jumped .16 overnight. It was 3.83 for the longest time but it shot up this morning. It was on the news that $4/gal for gas is about the norm. Im predicting $5/gal diesel very soon.

I sure hope all this hubub about the oil bubble bursting and prices going down holds true. Weve gotta have a break somewhere.


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