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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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thinking of a different truck to set up for street pullin,and found a couple 3500 6.7s on a salvage auction. thinking of a 6.7 with all 5.9 electronics and larger injectors with dual cp3s and a larger turbo-custom 5" exhaust. any thoughts on why this would or could not be a good setup. only things i can think of are camshaft differances-so install performance cam, and if ive heard wright the main diff is a larger bore,so timing differances I wouldnt think would bother anything? I suppose to get a hold of a cummins employee would be good if they'd give you any info. I work with cummins and iveco engines at work. theres also a 6.7 iveco with all the same bosch fuel system. nice super quiet engine very similar. was told at service training that cummins designed it and iveco buils it. any ways I would think a 6.7 with out the emissions junk thats ruining them would make big power??? thanks for any info.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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I have often wondered the same thin... I am going to keep an eye on this thread!
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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I know the 6.7s have Egr so I don't know what you would have to do there. Also it could take some work to get the 5.9 electronics to work with the 6.7 gauges but I don't know this for sure. If you could get it to work it should be an interesting project.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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I know the 6.7s have Egr so I don't know what you would have to do there. Also it could take some work to get the 5.9 electronics to work with the 6.7 gauges but I don't know this for sure. If you could get it to work it should be an interesting project.
I could always install the whole dash and elec harness from a 06 or 07 w5.9 if there would be any guage problems. a good friend works for the epa and just did testing on the 6.7. he has all the specs for both engines. also have a buddy thats the deisel tech at a local dodge dealer and has all the training on the 6.7s, got good help,now it'll just take $$$
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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Are the head bolts in the same location??? I think if you do some searching.. maybe check out the compD forum... I thought I heard of a someone already doing this??? Reb???
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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been there done that, works well, but the rods will only take so much. Also head gasket it weak. Need to change injectors also. If you were to put on a different ECM, i would go 03 early 04. 04.5 and above reqire a different bowel and may cause problems with 6.7 piston. 6.7 piston is designed like 03-early 04.
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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been there done that, works well, but the rods will only take so much. Also head gasket it weak. Need to change injectors also. If you were to put on a different ECM, i would go 03 early 04. 04.5 and above reqire a different bowel and may cause problems with 6.7 piston. 6.7 piston is designed like 03-early 04.
what did you run for a turbo? is the head gasket good with arp studs? how bout the 6.7 cp3- did you change that also or will it work. if you pm me id like to talk about it thanks
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Ditch the 6.7 harness/electronics and all the egr crap. Swap in pre cr rods, 03-04 injs, harness, ecu, sensors, intake plenum. try and keep the cross tubes, rail and lines cause they are much nicer. I am workin on one right now doin a cross breed.
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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When they changed the stroke.. did they shorten the rods.. or just move the piston pin a little higher on the piston???
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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rods are the same, just moved the pin height up. I ran several turbos. As far as gaskets go you need studs, but you need the custom new age 625 studs. The older studs don't have the same clamping force, 210 k psi vs. 265k psi and 125-130 lbs vs. 155-160 lbs. With extreme abuse this is way i get these gaskets to live. Last 6.7 i built i fireringed it and the gasket head fine til the rod said "see ya", lol.
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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rods are the same, just moved the pin height up. I ran several turbos. As far as gaskets go you need studs, but you need the custom new age 625 studs. The older studs don't have the same clamping force, 210 k psi vs. 265k psi and 125-130 lbs vs. 155-160 lbs. With extreme abuse this is way i get these gaskets to live. Last 6.7 i built i fireringed it and the gasket head fine til the rod said "see ya", lol.
how much power was that motor putting out when the rod let loose?
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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1000 HP it bent 4 rods, put new rods in and 1175 HP it grenaded.
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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new stock rods?
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Reb.B
1000 HP it bent 4 rods, put new rods in and 1175 HP it grenaded.
im assuming the 6.7 compared to a 5.9 at the same hp would have more lug and torque? so the old 24 valve and 12 valve rods are good enough or does a guy have to go with custom rods?
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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yah, new stock rods was all i could get, afterwards i found some cunningham billet rods and used them in a 5.9 after. I like the 24V and 12V rods better. They are forged and the common rail rods are the powdered metal, cracked rods.
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