RBC foreign workers replacing Canadians
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We will probable be retiring around the same time if all goes well,i'm 43 and hoping to slow down a bit by 58----looking to head to the island(Port Alberni BC Area)and maybe head south for a few month over winter.RV/Boat/Honda Goldwing-(wishlist) and the MRS.May even work part time to get me out of the house a few days a week.DW
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When I said Indians I was referring to the ones from India not the FN or whatever politically correct term is the current flavour of the week.
Magiriano I think we are on the same page in some respects and others... not so much. You are quick to point out the faults of our ancestors and hold us liable for them but then out the other side of your mouth you chastise us for resting on our grandparents' laurels. My grandparents came to Canada much the same way you did except they had a steamer trunk to hold their posessions which they carried across Eastern Europe while fleeing the Russians. Their land was taken from them much the same as it was supposedly stolen from the FN except my family doesn't get or expect free education, reserves, or tax breaks from either the Russians or the Germans. I've also served as a volunteer fire fighter, the ones that do it for free. Next time you want to assume I'm an ignorant, uneducated, lazy hillbilly skip it.
It's Canada, we're all immigrants just the ones that came 50+ years ago did it better with a lot more hardwork, fewer handouts, and less scheming unlike many but certainly not all of today's immigrants. As you stated above many of today's immigrants come to escape the oppression of their home countries but end up bringing or creating the same issues here.
Magiriano I think we are on the same page in some respects and others... not so much. You are quick to point out the faults of our ancestors and hold us liable for them but then out the other side of your mouth you chastise us for resting on our grandparents' laurels. My grandparents came to Canada much the same way you did except they had a steamer trunk to hold their posessions which they carried across Eastern Europe while fleeing the Russians. Their land was taken from them much the same as it was supposedly stolen from the FN except my family doesn't get or expect free education, reserves, or tax breaks from either the Russians or the Germans. I've also served as a volunteer fire fighter, the ones that do it for free. Next time you want to assume I'm an ignorant, uneducated, lazy hillbilly skip it.
It's Canada, we're all immigrants just the ones that came 50+ years ago did it better with a lot more hardwork, fewer handouts, and less scheming unlike many but certainly not all of today's immigrants. As you stated above many of today's immigrants come to escape the oppression of their home countries but end up bringing or creating the same issues here.
I did mentioned in my posts that I have nothing but respect for the ones that pulled their weight to better everyone else.
But this is not a debate, this is becoming a "my truck is bigger contest". Show me the immigrant that's abusing the system and I will use my phone to have them investigated, and even better, call Immigration, Police, Welfare, CPS on them, these are tools readily available to you.
And if you don't know who to call you can always call Crime Stoppers as fraud is a crime.
Don't expect me to wash your toilet for $.50/hr and call you Master because you were born here and I wasn't or ask me how come a Gook and a WOP can afford to live in "your" neighborhood as my ignorant "white bred Canadian" neighbours did. Not too proud to not do it, my pride and labour is more valuable than minimum wage
As for the "Indians" or "pakis" as I prefer to call them, well, they're part of the Common Wealth, they follow different paths and rules to immigrate to Canada than the rest of us, but not too many know that. Their Gov't is soo corrupt and OURS is soo dumb that is not uncommon for brothers and sisters to immigrate to Canada as husband and wife. Heck, for a few hundred bucks they'll issue you a legal death certificate in India so you can collect your life insurance and move to Bangladesh or Thailand..
But generalizing and placing everyone in the same pile is wrong, not everyone is brown, not everyone is abusing the system and not all of us get welfare and free dental. Don't believe me, send me your email and I'll email you a copy of the $800 bill I last paid in cash for a root canal and tooth filling.
As for whom got screwed 50-60 years ago, well, my grandparents too got screwed by the Italian Government first, then by the communists, but that wasn't the topic, the topic was how the Canadian Gov't is screwing immigrants TODAY, and unlike everyone "that heard" that immigrants abuse their system and go on welfare and so on I don't spread rumors, I know first hand they get screwed because they happened to me, my Canadian born children and my Canadian wife and I have a suitcase of paperwork to prove it!
Oh and B-North, 1 in every 200 people walking the Earth today is a direct descendent of Genghis Khan, chances are you're Asian!
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Wow seen more action on this thread than any other thread we had here in some time.
Dave, did you know that RBC made 2 billion in profit in the first quarter of 2013, and they have to still do a labour layoffs/cut backs. Way to long these mega big companies have played a hire/layoff game on the tax payer dime, using EI to pay for their excessive profit taking. Not that the Canadian government really cares about a lower to middle class worker vs. a big wage CEO with a golden parachute.
I saw on TV a foreign worker can be paid 15% less than Canadian worker doing the same job
, guess that explains all the foreign workers influx these days. If the government cared about a Canada citizen a foreign worker should be charged at least 15-25% premium over standard pay, with the extra 15-25% going to help retrain/pay for secondary education for legal Canadian citizens. If the business can't survive with hiring Canada at normal going pay rate, than it shouldn't be in business.
Dave, did you know that RBC made 2 billion in profit in the first quarter of 2013, and they have to still do a labour layoffs/cut backs. Way to long these mega big companies have played a hire/layoff game on the tax payer dime, using EI to pay for their excessive profit taking. Not that the Canadian government really cares about a lower to middle class worker vs. a big wage CEO with a golden parachute.
I saw on TV a foreign worker can be paid 15% less than Canadian worker doing the same job
, guess that explains all the foreign workers influx these days. If the government cared about a Canada citizen a foreign worker should be charged at least 15-25% premium over standard pay, with the extra 15-25% going to help retrain/pay for secondary education for legal Canadian citizens. If the business can't survive with hiring Canada at normal going pay rate, than it shouldn't be in business.
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Some good points---i will agree that the multiculturalism is a failure(Thankyou Liberals/NDP)courting the immigrate vote but will never admit it.Honestly, all around ---Do you think that your "LIFE" is better here in CANADA or back in your homeland?????I work and have trained Indians/Arab/Asians/Filipino/plenty EU/you name it pretty much work/trained with them all---even picked up a bit of the language as well--which is nice,nothing wrong with culture--even had some cool food but my Edit didn't like it later on
(LOL).The majority are happy to be working that i have worked with, as this country offers a better life/opportunity for them or there families,not once have i ever heard of "SLAVERY" mentioned or treated them like one.Every job they do when i"m training i have done too so there is no lesser class of work when your with me."Work is work"regardless of color.PS -----the hardest working folk i have ever trained are hands down the Filipino's---hats of to them cause they are a tuff bunch---talk way to fast for Canadian Fella to understand but we do work well together.
(LOL).The majority are happy to be working that i have worked with, as this country offers a better life/opportunity for them or there families,not once have i ever heard of "SLAVERY" mentioned or treated them like one.Every job they do when i"m training i have done too so there is no lesser class of work when your with me."Work is work"regardless of color.PS -----the hardest working folk i have ever trained are hands down the Filipino's---hats of to them cause they are a tuff bunch---talk way to fast for Canadian Fella to understand but we do work well together.In the USA for ex, the judges are elected, here they're appointed.
Bear with me, I'll explain why this is so important.
While a Judge in Texas has to be fair in order to win the next elections, a Judge in Canada doesn't have to do anything after they're appointed, they're set for life no matter how partial, impartial or honest they are.
Now here's me, the working schmuck that can't afford a $1,000/hr lawyer, going 10-20-30 klicks over the speed limit to do a concrete job because the concrete supplier is delivering NOW and for the past 4 weeks it's been raining cats and dogs and when it wasn't there was no concrete available.
The road is clear and the signs are clearly posted so I know I am at fault for speeding, but I also know I am behind on my bills, I have 4 kids to feed and 3 other workers and their families that need to eat off this job.
The mountie pulls me over and he has a quota, he doesn't wanna listen to my reasons and gives me the ticket which I can explain in court.
In Canada, both the prosecutor and the judge get their paycheck form the Gov't and the Gov't, among other means makes money off my speeding ticket.
And, the Texas Judge is also being paid by my taxes and speeding ticket fines, but he needs mine and my 3 other workers vote to win the next elections.
Now you have the prosecutor and the judge needing my fine to make their next paycheck, so the prosecutor has no reason to work with me and understand the circumstances; but while in Texas a Judge will be TRULLY impartial and listen to my reasons fearing that the voters might side with me if he isn't fair, in Canada he doesn't have to worry about that and he'd give a break to the bimbo with DDD's that did a hit and run and erase her SEVEN demerits while he'd throw the book at me for being wrong(speeding) while doing what I thought was right.
Read my post carefully, I am not saying that it was an unfair decision, regardless of the circumstances I was clearly at fault.
But when the Judge flirts with a big busted defendant and takes the liberty of erasing 7 demerits for a HIT AND RUN!!!!!!! but then upholds the law for the next guy I have to wonder if I should've wore high heels and a skirt to court that day(I asked the judge about it too and he wasn't too impressed)
Wanna see the last fair judge?
His name is Hon. Spencer Brown of Kerrville Texas!
God bless you Mr. Brown!
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Wow seen more action on this thread than any other thread we had here in some time.
Dave, did you know that RBC made 2 billion in profit in the first quarter of 2013, and they have to still do a labour layoffs/cut backs. Way to long these mega big companies have played a hire/layoff game on the tax payer dime, using EI to pay for their excessive profit taking. Not that the Canadian government really cares about a lower to middle class worker vs. a big wage CEO with a golden parachute.
I saw on TV a foreign worker can be paid 15% less than Canadian worker doing the same job, guess that explains all the foreign workers influx these days. If the government cared about a Canada citizen a foreign worker should be charged at least 15-25% premium over standard pay, with the extra 15-25% going to help retrain/pay for secondary education for legal Canadian citizens. If the business can't survive with hiring Canada at normal going pay rate, than it shouldn't be in business.
Dave, did you know that RBC made 2 billion in profit in the first quarter of 2013, and they have to still do a labour layoffs/cut backs. Way to long these mega big companies have played a hire/layoff game on the tax payer dime, using EI to pay for their excessive profit taking. Not that the Canadian government really cares about a lower to middle class worker vs. a big wage CEO with a golden parachute.
I saw on TV a foreign worker can be paid 15% less than Canadian worker doing the same job
, guess that explains all the foreign workers influx these days. If the government cared about a Canada citizen a foreign worker should be charged at least 15-25% premium over standard pay, with the extra 15-25% going to help retrain/pay for secondary education for legal Canadian citizens. If the business can't survive with hiring Canada at normal going pay rate, than it shouldn't be in business.
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Another thing that Canada falls short on is the judicial system.
In the USA for ex, the judges are elected, here they're appointed.
Bear with me, I'll explain why this is so important.
While a Judge in Texas has to be fair in order to win the next elections, a Judge in Canada doesn't have to do anything after they're appointed, they're set for life no matter how partial, impartial or honest they are.
Now here's me, the working schmuck that can't afford a $1,000/hr lawyer, going 10-20-30 klicks over the speed limit to do a concrete job because the concrete supplier is delivering NOW and for the past 4 weeks it's been raining cats and dogs and when it wasn't there was no concrete available.
The road is clear and the signs are clearly posted so I know I am at fault for speeding, but I also know I am behind on my bills, I have 4 kids to feed and 3 other workers and their families that need to eat off this job.
The mountie pulls me over and he has a quota, he doesn't wanna listen to my reasons and gives me the ticket which I can explain in court.
In Canada, both the prosecutor and the judge get their paycheck form the Gov't and the Gov't, among other means makes money off my speeding ticket.
And, the Texas Judge is also being paid by my taxes and speeding ticket fines, but he needs mine and my 3 other workers vote to win the next elections.
Now you have the prosecutor and the judge needing my fine to make their next paycheck, so the prosecutor has no reason to work with me and understand the circumstances; but while in Texas a Judge will be TRULLY impartial and listen to my reasons fearing that the voters might side with me if he isn't fair, in Canada he doesn't have to worry about that and he'd give a break to the bimbo with DDD's that did a hit and run and erase her SEVEN demerits while he'd throw the book at me for being wrong(speeding) while doing what I thought was right.
Read my post carefully, I am not saying that it was an unfair decision, regardless of the circumstances I was clearly at fault.
But when the Judge flirts with a big busted defendant and takes the liberty of erasing 7 demerits for a HIT AND RUN!!!!!!! but then upholds the law for the next guy I have to wonder if I should've wore high heels and a skirt to court that day(I asked the judge about it too and he wasn't too impressed)
Wanna see the last fair judge?
His name is Hon. Spencer Brown of Kerrville Texas!
God bless you Mr. Brown!
In the USA for ex, the judges are elected, here they're appointed.
Bear with me, I'll explain why this is so important.
While a Judge in Texas has to be fair in order to win the next elections, a Judge in Canada doesn't have to do anything after they're appointed, they're set for life no matter how partial, impartial or honest they are.
Now here's me, the working schmuck that can't afford a $1,000/hr lawyer, going 10-20-30 klicks over the speed limit to do a concrete job because the concrete supplier is delivering NOW and for the past 4 weeks it's been raining cats and dogs and when it wasn't there was no concrete available.
The road is clear and the signs are clearly posted so I know I am at fault for speeding, but I also know I am behind on my bills, I have 4 kids to feed and 3 other workers and their families that need to eat off this job.
The mountie pulls me over and he has a quota, he doesn't wanna listen to my reasons and gives me the ticket which I can explain in court.
In Canada, both the prosecutor and the judge get their paycheck form the Gov't and the Gov't, among other means makes money off my speeding ticket.
And, the Texas Judge is also being paid by my taxes and speeding ticket fines, but he needs mine and my 3 other workers vote to win the next elections.
Now you have the prosecutor and the judge needing my fine to make their next paycheck, so the prosecutor has no reason to work with me and understand the circumstances; but while in Texas a Judge will be TRULLY impartial and listen to my reasons fearing that the voters might side with me if he isn't fair, in Canada he doesn't have to worry about that and he'd give a break to the bimbo with DDD's that did a hit and run and erase her SEVEN demerits while he'd throw the book at me for being wrong(speeding) while doing what I thought was right.
Read my post carefully, I am not saying that it was an unfair decision, regardless of the circumstances I was clearly at fault.
But when the Judge flirts with a big busted defendant and takes the liberty of erasing 7 demerits for a HIT AND RUN!!!!!!! but then upholds the law for the next guy I have to wonder if I should've wore high heels and a skirt to court that day(I asked the judge about it too and he wasn't too impressed)
Wanna see the last fair judge?
His name is Hon. Spencer Brown of Kerrville Texas!
God bless you Mr. Brown!
Why do you think the supreme court judges are not elected by the public? Its because they make important decisions that very well could be for the benefit of the public, but against popular opinion. Think civil rights. Do you think that the public majority was in favour of integration and equal rights for blacks in the 60's? Would you agree that it was good decision, 50 years later?
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