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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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Hey why is mud flap manitory, the dealer can sell you the truck without flaps? Send the ticket to detroit. They built the truck. The cop probably didn't have flaps on his car.
Good point..


If you have the time, take the ticket to court.. At least you might get away with paying less and they might overturn a whole bunch of it. Go prepared and look like you have your act together and they may just dump the whole thing with a warning.. Happens lots if you make the effort.

The peace officers have a huge chip on their shoulders.. Failed out of RCMP training and now after a 6 week course, get paid the same with non of the responsibility of a federal officer. I know alot of RCMP members, and none of them have the time to chase that junk down. They are too busy doing domestic disputes while all the peace officers can't respond to a missing cat!

Truth is, the Peace officer couldn't tow you. He would have to call the RCMP/EPD to come and take care of it. They should stick to catching dogs!
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Dog
Good point..


If you have the time, take the ticket to court.. At least you might get away with paying less and they might overturn a whole bunch of it. Go prepared and look like you have your act together and they may just dump the whole thing with a warning.. Happens lots if you make the effort.

The peace officers have a huge chip on their shoulders.. Failed out of RCMP training and now after a 6 week course, get paid the same with non of the responsibility of a federal officer. I know alot of RCMP members, and none of them have the time to chase that junk down. They are too busy doing domestic disputes while all the peace officers can't respond to a missing cat!

Truth is, the Peace officer couldn't tow you. He would have to call the RCMP/EPD to come and take care of it. They should stick to catching dogs!

The ticket is only for tint, the rest was a warning. I am thinking of fighting it, but I have no intention of removing the tint. But my question is, if I do fight it i'm sure they would ask if I removed it and I couldn't really lie and say I did? So i'm not sure if it's worth it to fight it? Yea I know peace officers are a waste of frigging time, just out there to **** off honest people
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:28 AM
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WHINE, WHINE, WHINE!!! Why don't you guys just grow up and follow the law. These guys have a job to do. If you don't like it complain to your politicians that YOU voted into office. They are the ones who make the **** laws, not the cops. If you wnat to keep paying fines for your windows being to dark then leave them as they are. I'm just sick of hearing people bashing the cops who only trying to take care of your dumb ***. You think you could do it any better then give it a try.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:42 AM
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35% tint on driver/pass windows are legal here. Its what i have now. When i was younger and had the extra cash. I had the 5% all around, still never got a ticket for it.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:04 AM
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if you think tint is bad I got a ticket for an obstructed license plate, I have x2 trl towing ***** on my bumper, both had covers on them, I was polite, The officer said I had to remove them, I said I use them he said Ok just remove one of the covers. I said OK..and I did..he still gave me a 115$ ticket, I was dumb founded, I paid it cause I'd make more money working than fighting the ticket in court.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by nickg
if you think tint is bad I got a ticket for an obstructed license plate, I have x2 trl towing ***** on my bumper, both had covers on them, I was polite, The officer said I had to remove them, I said I use them he said Ok just remove one of the covers. I said OK..and I did..he still gave me a 115$ ticket, I was dumb founded, I paid it cause I'd make more money working than fighting the ticket in court.
My buddy had his plates covered in mud and got a ticket for that.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 02:38 AM
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Clearly it was the lumber that got you pulled over, 12' lumber out of a 6.5' box is pretty obvious and not maybe the best lumber hauling scenario.

And yes, everybody knows you need a red flag on overlength loads...

I'm affraid this one could easily be avoided and you wouldn't even have gotten a tint ticket.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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Well after reading this post and then looking into the rules for Alberta. No tint on your Windshield or driver side windows.
Now the back window(slider) can have tint on as dark as you want as long as you have two rear view mirrors. The rear passenger windows can be as dark as you want also.
Not sure for the reason for these rules but they have been around for many years now. I think it is a safety issue with seeing out of the window in the dark as opposed to anything eles. (the whole loading a gun issue has only been the past few years).

As for the validitity of a Bylaw Officer as opposed to RCMP or City. Guess what they all laugh at each other. They all have their purpose.
We for the most part have complained the RCMP have been to busy to catch the real criminals, drug dealers and killers. They can't hire enough RCMP so individual citys started their own Police Forces, now we have more Sherrifs and Bylaw officers also. These guys will be taking care of the non criminal side of things and let the RCMP take care of the serious matter.

Get over it, we can't have it all if you do not like the ticket go dispute it. I bet not having your load flagged out past 3.5 feet on your truck (1 meter) was the culprit for your ticket. It's liek driving a big rig, give them one reason and they will find many more. If you feel you were signled out then fight it and let us know.
I hope you don't have a Commercial Drivers licence or Comercial insurance on your truck. The Judge will have no pity.

Fight for the wrong, Fight for the right don't complain about either.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Dog
Good point..


If you have the time, take the ticket to court.. At least you might get away with paying less and they might overturn a whole bunch of it. Go prepared and look like you have your act together and they may just dump the whole thing with a warning.. Happens lots if you make the effort.
You will lose this one. Mudflaps are actually in the Highway Traffic Act, along with window tint - for the flaps, there are specifications for height plus / delta. Best you can do is ask for a supervisor to attend the location that has JP powers (most shift sup's do), so you can swear an information regarding the lack of mudflaps on his / her car / truck / SUV. However, this could backfire if they really start looking for more stuff on your vehicle.

It is just best to have a "get out of jail free card" attached to your name when they run the plate............they just leave.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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perhaps as yrs go by you may become a bit more tactful on how you want to bend the laws in your favor. it can be done but the BIG red flag missing off your lumber netted you the big red flag and the officer picked the tint because its a higher fine. if you go to court about the tint and do not have the vehicle there for the court clerk or crown/officer present to inspect, your fine will remain enforced.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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I probably will just pay it and chalk it up to just stop cooperating with them and giving it to them way to easy, no point in saying a word to them, just give them the indentifcation and that's it. I was just to naive in assuming he would let me off with a warning if I cooperated and was respectful Looking up the laws I found 2 sources that said 35% is legal on the front side windows? Does anyone know for sure 100% what is it? I was always under the impression it was none.

I have been hauling lumber like this for 3 years, same with many other people I know and this is the first to ever have a problem. If he gave me the tint ticket because of the lumber that is retarded, give me the ticket for what the problem is, because I would fight the flagging ticket. He couldn't of given me a ticket for mud flaps, they are legal, he didn't know the laws for them or flagging things.

I know they like to give out BS tickets all the time, it's nothing more then a way to get money and waste more tax payer money pulling people over for it.

I am just mad that they were not pulling over people speeding, I work construction and have almost been run over a few times and it was just luck I didn't. It pisses me off they are not getting the guys speeding threw construction zones and are more worried about stupid tickets. Last year I set down a tool and not 5 seconds later it was ran over by someone who didn't feel like slowing down, but the cops wouldn't bother someone for this, and we have to enforce the speed ourselves, and that got my brothers truck backed into last year

Age will not change a thing, my truck will have tint, strait pipe, etc on it forever. I will just have to get more "creative" on how to get around the laws. I pay good money for my truck and it will be exactly how I want it, if the cops don't like it so be it.
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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Doing something for years doesn't necessarily make it right. It just so happened that this time someone noticed.

I know they like to give out BS tickets all the time, it's nothing more then a way to get money and waste more tax payer money pulling people over for it.
Just so you know, the money collected for infractions goes to the Province and not any service in actual writing of the tickets. I can say that no ticket I ever wrote, was BS. However, I can say that people have done things on their own accord to prompt me to want to look harder at even more things. Just like the classic seatbelt example. I rarely noticed someone wasn't wearing it until they reached for it - then it just made me look for other things. From just a simple seatbelt, here are a few examples of the "other things" I've found: weapons and firearms offenses, drugs, impaireds, insurance, registration, stolen items.....just to name a few.

I think the most common thing that everyone has eluded to in this thread so far, is avoid doing things in general that will make law enforcement take a second look. Remember, most of the guys appreciate tricked out vehicles on various levels as a lot are into it themselves, but be sensible about it.

12' lumber out of a 6.5' box is pretty obvious and not maybe the best lumber hauling scenario.
This is what made him take notice in the first place guaranteed. 2' overhang, who cares. 5.5 ' is a bit extreme without flagging.

Next time when stopped however, roll both windows down completely showing full vision and respect for officer safety and see how much farther along that may get you. My guess would have been just the $75 no flag ticket.............if that even.

Also, it was plastered all over the news stations and radio. Last week was a "focus on seatbelt infractions week" across the province. He probably couldn't see squat inside your truck due to the level of tint you chose to go with. On your other thread, didn't you state you were going as dark as possible knowing the consequences?
I figure might as well go 5% instead of 15% or 20% because if they want to ticket me they will no matter how dark they are
You took it into your own hands. And........you're not being singled out Mocho - any one of us, including me, that chose to get our windows tinted, chose to possibly deal with the consequences as well. I agree, they could probably spend time more wisely to deal with other things........but, it is, what it is.

Last year I set down a tool and not 5 seconds later it was ran over by someone who didn't feel like slowing down, but the cops wouldn't bother someone for this, and we have to enforce the speed ourselves, and that got my brothers truck backed into last year
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here........to me, it kinda makes no sense.......a lot of information is missing from this statement.

Regardless, did you call the EPS traffic section? "Hello Mr. Superintendent. I work in a construction zone in the city at ________ address. We have experienced numerous instances of drivers not slowing down to a reasonable speed as posted in our area. We are working in close proximity to traffic and have some safety concerns. Would it be possible that we could get a more pronounced traffic enforcement presence in our area?"

With the amount of other retarded crap happening in our city, EPS cannot be everywhere, so mentioning of problem areas will likely lead to an increased focus.

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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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My boss goes to canada, twice a year fishing and he got stoped for the tint on his windows. Funny thing is it was the factory tint.
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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All I can say is that the enforcement/ticketing is gonna get worse, not better. I read in the paper the other day, that deerfoot will be more inforced. They are gonna allow 2% over posted and will issue tickets. The days of going 10 to 20kph over the speed limit are gone. I'm just gonna get more time charged to my job, so my pocket will be happier. I'm sure this is coming from the department of transportation.

I feel for the guys working at the side of the road, as we motorist seem to be to busy inside the vehicle at times to observe whats going on outside the vehicle.

You could have had a cop that just got yelled at by his wife, or boss. You where just convent. And you know how much the wifey nags...
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 01:32 AM
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regarding the speed traps on the QE2 that dweiler mentioned - i had a friend of mine get caught going well over the limit. he fought it with the defense that the cop who pulled him over didn't actually see the numbers on the gun . . . the ticket was thrown out!

this being said, i still keep my speed in check as i don't want to risk getting caught in those traps - it would be a lot of time and effort to fight it, because chances are i wouldn't be close to home when i got caught.
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