Espar, Proheat, Webasto..........
 

what are you guys useing? Tate what model are you rocking? I'm looking to get one for my 12v going in the Chevy. Looking for models and likes, I can get a price break on one since I work at Waterous now.

I like my Espar. I got the universal kit D5WSC and comes with the draw straw with the 7 day timer. Works like a charm.

Dont think you could go wrong with either. The Webastos are supposed to be better and more reliable over time.

That said, my espar worked great.



Im not sure about the Proheat - as far as I know, the Proheat is just a pad that glues onto your oil pan:

http://www.engineheaters.com/why.htm

Or are you talking about something else Luke?

whats your cost on them ????

Proheat is a diesel fired coolant heater, not as prolific as the other 2 but. lots of rig deck engines have an X45 on that I've seen. they also make an M series which is smaller. Highway truck can use the X45 as well.

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I don't know what I can get them for, i just know I get an employee discount.

Interesting - seems a little like overkill though

ya no I didn't mean I want a proheat, just that its an option. theres other brands out there over that too.......

but thats 2 votes espar.....I think tate has the little espar too.

I would seriously check out the Webasto Blue Heat. I have heard very good things about them.

Ive got the little Espar - its a D4 - they dont make them anymore. I believe Tate has a D5.

Ran a D4 two trucks ago, last one had a Webasto. This one, if it gets one, goes back to Espar. It was a little more system friendly. Little smaller, little better electric draw-down, little better fuel. Nothing awsome, but over a winter, it added up.

My two co workers each have the Webasto. One runs a GMC the other 06 Dodge. Both had no issues so far. For what ever reason i was looking at the Espar. Don't ask me why but i gotta get it done soon. I hear that on the 08's there is a take off allready on the tank so they don't have to drop it for the install. Can anyone confirm this ??? Should save a few $$$$ when getting it done.

I have a Webasto, got a good price from a deal at an International dealer.

Works great... the engine is at 40C or so in about 30 minutes regardless of the weather.

I've got or had the espar, came with the truck. it stoped leaking so i tryed to take it apart but most screws were to corroded so i'm waiting to get a new one. It did work good when it worked.

whats a good price for the Espar D5 kit?

Tate is running the Espar for sure, I asked him last night

Kevin

Tates is a D5 like mine... I got mine through a bulk deal with a local performance shop. $1800 installed.

wow thats alot i can get for over a 1000 for a webasto

That price was all in for the heater, 7 day timer and the 4-6 hours of install. Anywhere else I talked to was near 3K.

Ya 1800 is a good price. Also Ebay is a good place. I know there was a guy on there selling the kits for 1500 or so plus shipping and he was from canada also.

well ok then, I can get the espar D5 kit for less than 1000 more than 900 tax in. So I'll do that, then have to get the timer separate I imagine. I didn't look in the box too well though. looked like a complete install kit though. I'll install it myself.

thanks guys looks like I've decided.

I'm running a D5 like what has been said. Never had an issue with it, its been the one thing on my truck thats been flawless. When I get home for a couple days, it will be coming off the dually and onto the 12v. Make sure you get the timer. If you are on consistant schedule, it is a must have.

I got my hater for around $800 w/ GST. I had to buy some stuff (hoses, fittings) to install, and make a bracket. I might buy the timer ($300), but just use the switch right now.

The 7 day timer is worth the dough.. it also does the troubleshooting for the F Codes to give you direction on common install problems or problems down the road. I let the local shop in town borrow mine so they could get another one running. Took about 2 seconds to figure out the problem from that.

Hmm never really was interested in these until I saw this thread and started thinking how nice it would be to have a warm truck in the morning and not agrivate the neighbors anymore then nessesary running the truck in the morning. Might have to add this to the ever lengthening list of things to buy for the truck.

I've got my Espar D5 all lined up at work, just waiting to see if they can get me a 7 day timer to go with it. I guess we only stock the heater and install kit. I should find out tommorrow abut the timer.

any where else a good place to get a timer? I can go across the street to the Pete dealer I guess but anyone have any other recommendations if I can't get the timer through work?

Fred, I always thought it was for Mercedes cars, BaH who needs it..

But now its just too darn handy. I just have to hook up the signal wire from the heater and install the relay for the blower motor. Then I can have the truck interior warm too.

If you can get the heater, the timer shouldn't be too hard to get.

Oh ya the heater and install kit is no problem. theres 3 or 4 on the shelf. I know I can get the timer at Peterbilt, just throwing it out there to see if anyone has a good place to get one though.

I was just thinkin if you guys ordered the heaters, you could get a better deal on the timer than hitting the open market...

for certain. like half price, but I'm not sure they'll bring a timer in for me. its not stocked in house and the system says its never been sold. The partsman said we moved 10 heaters this year so far. but no timers.

If they'll bring me one in, laughing......I'll get the full meal deal for about $1030 including tax. If not......I'll go get one. I'm so sold on having anytime anywhere warm truck.....and that heater relay idea is GOLD. I'm fully sick of 5am cold truck syndrome. last winter was the last straw

Wow just the thought of having a warm interior to jump into in the morning is killing me, let alone less wear and tear on the truck starting cold in the morning, its settled I'm puttin one on this winter.
How much diesel would it burn in half an hour?? I know its not much but I'm interested in knowing how much diesel I would be going through using it every morning.

Somewhere around a half litre for an hour it says. To be honest, I never really checked. Hard to get a good gauge when you are switching to winter diesel and doing varied driving.

Luke, you could check Cummins. Thats where I picked up my Espar from, they should be able to get it for you. At what price, I can not say.

Ya, the heater on high output burns .5L an hour and .2L hour on low. So usually on a cool day it will run on high for about 30 min and switch to low for the remainder of the 120 min timer. The 7 day is handy for the airport too, if you travel.

sweet, looks like the parts guys at work will bring in the timer for me!! Gold.

ordered a DTT billet converter and VB for my 47rh going in the Chevy. I'm hoping I can bang on it for a while now.

hey guys has anyone looked into ESPAR D4W heater there for smal for pick-ups well on the espar suit it says it for dodge pick-ups lol getting aprice on one today .....

I think the D4 heater is being phased out for the D5.

Also another gadget for the Espar, keyless activation. I never got it but you can get a keyfob activator for it as well.

I have a D4 - works just fine. I have the timer and keyfob as well. If you arent going to get the timer you might as well not bother getting an Espar.

I thought they phased them out a couple of years ago. If you are getting a D4, I would think its old stock.

well there still on there website so i would think there still make them ... i wil find out

The 7-day timer is all right but I wish you could do more with it as to setting your times and days. I hooked up my remote start to my timer and that was probally the best thing. Now I can start it when ever I want.

If you look at the specs on the Espar D5 and the equivelant Webasto heater there is really no differance between them at all, even the dimensions of the heater are the same. I have the Espar in my truck and my dad got the Webasto for his and I like the 7 day timer they put in mine over the poopy one they gave him. The only thing I like about his, is the remote start. My timer allows mine to run for a max 2 hours and his is max 1 hour and its not enough when its -30 or below at all. They could have given him the same timer as mine so watch which one they give you whichever route you decide to go. I find his is maybe a tad quieter than mine too but whats worse, my straight piped truck at -20 or the Espar running?

I did get the D5 and timer, they're in the garage as we speak.


Lildog.. where does that signalwire come off of, the timer or the heater harness? Is it on the schematic?

i haven't got it out of the box yet, that will certainly be a must do for me when it gets installed.

You splice into the plug at the heater.. I have the shematic in a drawer with the plug metal pin to put in with my wire. I believe its in position #3 and is a blue signal wire. Supposed to just pull out one of the small rubber plugs in the harness plug to the unit heater and snap in this little connector pin. The signal is 12V+ and engages after the water temp gets up over a certain point. Use that to trip a relay and you should be golden. I am putting in one of those 2 pole relays with one side NC and the other NO. NC is the normal heating circuit, NO for the heater to feed the blower.