Was told that the 0W40 was the nearly the same money as the 5W40. Might try a pail on the trucks as both need oil changes again.

I just found out about the 'E' oil, makes total sense as the oil requirements has increase by these engine ingesting larger soot amounts. The new trucks can gain oil quantity (aka unburnt fuel), in the older stuff, that was a no no... Funny how everything has change.

 

Mike, I was under the assumption that you dont want to run the newer oils in the older trucks. They dont have the same additives and can lead to problems.

Discuss....

 

I was told the samething from Petro counter. One more thing to worry about, if you have the right oil or not. Had to say NO more than once, no to the 'E'.

My VP driver started today, been nearly three weeks since it started. I think it started better than my 4th gen today, was a nice -12deg's C this morn. Just luv that 3 cylinder sound, everybody gives me that *** look.

 

in the esso xd3 brand, 5-40 is a group 3 semi synthetic, and the 0-40 is a PAO 4 pure synthetic.

if they're near the same price, go with the 0-40 for sure. its a better oil, no brainer.

 

Agreed, the only thing to think about is the slightly higher viscosity protection at warmer temps of the 5W40, for warmer ambient conditions driving/towing protection. Luck for us, there are lots of choices, have used 5W40 duron in my 02 since brand new. Not saying its the best stuff ever, but I'm sure its saved a melt down or two. I have very little valve train wear, as I've looked a few times (each head gasket change out). That's what does the sales on me. The petro duron stuff just clings to everything metal surface, and is almost like grease. Hard to explain what its like, a real pain to clean-up without a heavy duty de-greaser.

 

Yeah, I tried running the XD-3 (0W40) stuff year round - my low oil pressure sensor was dinging pretty bad in the August heat in Montana.

I went to buy some XD-3 at UFA - they sold it as Polar Plus 0W40 - dont carry it anymore. I wasnt too impressed with that.


Its just easiest to run Amsoil if you can easily get your hands on it. Amsoil 15W40 HD Diesel and Marine has a pour point of -44F - which is pretty decent.

 

Both the XD-3 0w-40 and Duron E 0w-40 have the same hot characteristics as dino 15w-40.

I have no qualms about running Duron all year round.

 

yes. thats exactly the point modern of multi weight oils. the 1st number is characteristics at ambient temp and the 2nd is at operating temp. so a 40 weight is always a 40 weight at operating temp.

Evil, I have no idea why your low oil pressure was sounding. but it shouldn't have been related to 0w40.

 

I dont know either. It was pretty hot out...but it was still doing it after I got home. I went out and bought a pressure sender figuring it was fubar. Before changing it I switched back to 15W40 and it went away. The oil was the only excuse I could come up with.

 

"The best laid plans, foiled by a lack of lubrication pressure". Sounds like a lead-in line for a cheesy... anyway.

I run xd-3 0w40 in winter, and xd-3 15w40 in summer. I have not had any oil pressure problems, other than a faulty sending unit.

I run 0w40 in other units year round, and have no trouble to date with any of them.

Somewhere in my mess of an office, I have the esso spec book for their oils, and I go by that a lot of the time, when needing to find compatible oils for hyraulic systems, compressors, screw compressor coolants, etc. I know this stuff is available online if you look, although I am not sure if it is as comprehensive as the print edition.

I know of other people who run 0w30 diesel rated synthetic in their stuff, as they don't have the luxury of plugging in ( dog mushers especially ) They only run it in the winter, but it seems to work for them.

As to newer oils in older trucks, I have yet to hear that one. I know we are running E in a lot of older highway trucks, with no ill effects thus far. The miles those guys put on, I would think something would have cropped up by now. Maybe I'm not looking in the right spot.

When it comes to amsoil product, hard to go wrong there, they make some really good stuff. When coupled with a bypass filtration system, you can go to the 25k MILE oil change intervals, with no ill effects, in a good running engine. We have done this, and sent out oil samples faithfully, to see whats going on in there. Once again, I don't prefer to do extended changes like that, but to each his own.

There is what little info my experience gives us, perhaps there is a perfect solution out there, perhaps not, but at least we can discuss it in a civil ( and sometimes hilarious ) manner, and each learn something along the way.

Have fun folks.
Filtration is the key to good oil performance, and adding a bypass filter is a good idea. One engine that is doing 25k mile oil changes, you could eat off the top of the head, its that clean in there. Just amazing.

 

Talking about filtration, have you guys seen this device? I seen one on 01 ctd. Suppose to work decently. Probably work better on a new smogger truck.
http://www.frantzoil.com/home.html

pind, you seeing any day light yet way up there.

 

Ahh the ole toilet paper filter, i'll pass!

 

Hey Chris, long long time no see happy new year buddy..

Ya I thought the same thing, but they suppose to work. That guy that runs the TP filter goes 12k per oil change on the standard 15W40 stuff. I'm just going 7500-10k or when ever I get of my lazy butt...

 

Mike, this far south, LOTS of daylight, even on the shortest day. Heck on the short day, we get about 5 1/2 hours of daylight. Plenty enough to kill a vampire or two.

This year, the longest night was also coolish, which made for some fun to be had, keeping trucks and trailers moving up and down the road, but its all good.

Frantz filters, they worked good anytime I have seen them used. heck if that paper will clean up after a night of whiskey, it'll clean up engine oil just fine.

Have a good one

 

Always good to get a "professional" opinion from guys like Pind, Rob and Luke. Armchair mechanics only know so much...