I was looking at the smarty website a while ago and it now says "No Footprint" in blue letters. http://www.smartydieseltuner.com/sit...5/page/3132260

Now to me that means its not traceable by the dealer, but I'm not certain if what I mean is what they mean. Anybody know whats up?

 

Theyre making a pretty bold statement there. Doesnt say for what year or if it pertains to all years. If its for older trucks, most are out of warranty by now anyway. If it is for all years its a blessing. I know they claimed that for a while before and your right, it hasnt been on there, as ive been searchin prices, unless I missed it or didnt notice it too.

 

That link is NOT Mads Electronics......That is a person trying to do business by "cybersquatting" he is attempting to fool you into believing he is someone he is not.

Do NOT believe ANYTHING on that website.

This is the real home of the Smarty http://madselectronics.com/products.html

Before 2009 they were not detectable because they did not leave a foot print. Now the Dealer can tell you have them because it changes parameters the ECM logs.

 

Thanks Top! I was just doing a search when that came up. Blasted Frauds! How is anybody to know unless you personally know the company involved.

Well I guess its back to H&S. I'm leaning toward the mini maxx anyhow.

 

You can get either one from me here at the DTR Performance Shop and they will be the REAL deal GUARANTEED

 

Yup, thats smells of scam soup...


Larry, I like analog gauges thats why I went with the XRT Pro. The mini max would suit you well.

Lary will take care of you Larry, and I can assure you, Larry, Lary is the best!

 

The xrt pro will do everything I really need it to do, but then I have to add a gage pod somewhere. The wife needs the a-pillar handle when she drives so that place is out. I'm not sure that I can run the gauge pod that goes above the mirror because of the center console there. No room in the center, as the drivers seat spins around my legs take up the space under the dash.

In the end there is a bit of cost savings by going with the mini maxx over gauges and a simpler install since the only thing that is not plug-&-play is the EGT probe.

Have I missed anything guys? I only want to buy one of these.

 

one thing you can consider is the single gauge pod that does not remove your handle on the pillar. If your needing or wanting a single guage with multiple read outs and not take up a ton of space these might be a solution for your lack of space. http://www.westach.com/

 

Those westach gauges are pretty cool! The pillar guage pods I have looked at are all for the 2-1/16" guages, westach has a 2" and a 2-1/4" guage, will they fit the pods?

 

Hey Larry

Take a look at the minimax overhead mount


http://www.hsperformance.com/dodge-mounting-solutions/

 

I looked at that Blake, but I have the console up there with switches in it. I thought it minght be in the way. The A-pillar mount for the mini maxx may be the best way to go.

I love the dual Westach gages! they remind me of the engine gages in the first plane I ever flew.

 

Larry, if you are going with an H&S tuner and don't want to lose the pillar handle, the A-pillar mount is what you need as it is an overlay piece and the pillar handle stays in place.
If you lean toward the Smarty, then the Quadzilla Scout II is a good electronic gauge option that also allows you to adjust the Smarty PoD function, change turbo timing and has an automatic derate warm up funtion. You can see some Scout II mounting options in the Scout II thread that may also work for you https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ighlight=Scout
The Smarty Jr (ME) with pyro and Scout II combo is still a little less expensive than the MiniMax and provides pretty much the same monitoring and functionality, just not as pretty.
One clarification (as I understand it), the H&S tuners are shift on the fly between the different SW#'s, the PoD function of the Smarty is a rate/de-rate of the current tuning which means you can set the Wild tune and derate down to the mild tune. As Blake has said many times in many threads, they are both good tuners and he has used both! I have noticed though, ***Disclaimer, this is based on others comments/evaluations posted in various Forums and not from any actual knowledge I have***, that most of the 6.7 Cummins owners looking for mpg and mild power gains seem happier with the MADS Smarty and those looking for more power and smoke lean more towards the H&S tuners........ options and opinions, the world is full of 'em..... JB

 

Circle B is right...

Larry, if I were you and you are going to go with a monitoring system (or gauges) go with the Smarty Jr. It will save you about 200 bones.

I had a falling out with Smarty. Well more precisely, Bob Wagner. A one sided fallin out, as I couldnt even get him to respond to my calls or emails. The Smarty programmer is still top notch though.

Im really looking forward to the UDC by Smarty. Its gonna be interesting.

I absolutely love H&S. The programming is great, the features top notch, and the customer service even better.

Smarty does have more performance minded tuning in place though, and it seems as if that is the direction Im heading with my build. Ill be durned if Ill give Bob the time of day, but I would be willing to run a Smarty again..... maybe

 

You make a great point though Blake, customer service is ever so important when dealing with high dollar investments. If I go with the Smarty JR and have issues because of bad customer service, I'll be kicking myself....... 'I should've learned from Blake's experience, I should have learned from Blake's experience'........

 

i have a ScanGageII that I was using in my fouurd. It will read all excepy Boost and EGT. Is there a way to set the limits on boost with the XRT or is it a function of the program you select?

I've been looking for a link to the owners manuals for H&S but either they are not on line or I missing them.

Customer service means vastly more than a few dollars to me. I don't like hearing that communication is difficult.