When you guys get them, please put up some pics of the install. I am anxious

 

I just put one in my buddies 05. Install was easy as pie and the fit and finish was great! I've personally installed S&B, afe, k&N, airaid, aem blah blah blah CAI's and the S&B is the best I've seen thus far. I cant vouch for the performance gains (if any) on any of the kits, but like I said S&B will be my first choice from here on out

 

Mine arrived Monday!!! Today or tomorrow I will install it. Looking through the instructions, it looks pretty straight forward. I will post some pics.

 

Quick observation. Looks like I won't be using an AMSOIL Universal Air Induction filter like I planned. The S&B filter is huge and the measurements are a couple inches larger than any of the filters AMSOIL carries. No offense to S&B, I have always been a fan of the nano-fiber filters from AMSOIL and have NEVER been a fan of oiled filters. Last one I used a long time ago (K&N-which could be the problem) didn't last the "million miles" and after only about 20k+ miles (cleaned and oiled per instructions at required intervals) it looked like it was falling apart and not allowing the engine to breath (my perspective). The S&B filter on the other hand is built pretty robust when compared to the K&N I used, plus it is better protected.

 

just don't over oil it. over oiling will contaminate the MAF sensor and set a CEL. I spray light coat and clean more often.

 

Thank cbrahs! I will keep that in mind when it is time for servicing. I wish there was a better alternative. How often do you service yours? As of right now, I will be putting around 20K miles/year on my truck, just driving back and forth to work.

 

For what it's worth

I had an S & B in my 08 when I did my grid heater delete. My fuel economy went down.

After working with an engineer who specializes in this stuff, It was discovered the Stock air cleaner is better tuned with the sensors. Once I got the air volume up, the sensors did not read right. The S & B was not tumed to high volume

Yes my air temps went up a bit, but so did my fuel economy.

I modified the stock air box with a piece of dryer vent routed some of the air from the grill into the air box. Good for 10 degrees.

Food for thought

 

I'm probably not the guy to ask as OCD takes over on my truck. I have 19.7k miles on my truck now and have gone thru 3 air filters, 3 cabin filters, oil changes every 5k miles (even if the change oil light is not on), tire rotations every oil change and when I get the S&B in, it will be cleaned every oil change. I use MOTUL oil from a motorcycle shop. Dirtbike filter oil in a spray can. $19 and will last me YEARS. Light coat, let it soak in, look for any dry spots and touch up from there but NEVER over oil (there is a bulletin from GM that stated if there was a check engine light, tech pulled codes and they were MAF codes to inspect for aftermarket OILED air filter, if filter was present, it went from warranty to CUSTOMER PAY due to over oiling and contaminating the sensor).

 

I agree

Yeah It just needs a mist of oil. Soaking it, clogs it. And your filters will last longer. Use the cotten ones. the life expectancy is better

 

As much as we spend on these trucks, you can't over do it on maintaining it. So your maintenance plan works! As for oiling it, that is a good point especially for the sensors. So clean more often and use a light coat of oil is what I will be doing.

Thanks for the tips!

Oh and about the sensors. I am a bit impartial on how well I may have benefited. I really don't have anything to base my gains, if any, off of since the day after I did the deletes, I left for Texas, and the day after I got back in town, I installed the S&B. I don't know if I really gained anything as of yet, but it does seem my mileage hasn't went down at all.

Plus, isn't the computer suppose to be doing the calculations and making adjustments based on the readings from all of the sensors. I guess I just don't understand why in the world they would make a sensor tuned specifically for a certain amount of flow or whatever and cut the computer out of the equation. It should be based on the current air flow and air temp, among other readings, and let the computer handle the rest...preaching to the choir I know, but still.

 

If you are referring to my problem, it wasn't the sensor values that was the problem, it was the increased voulume was going down the tube in a different way. The air was blowing over the top of the sensor and not through it. In other words, when the volume increased, the air wasn't hitting the sensor any more. Putting the factory AF back in, cured the problem. The sensors themselves are a wide spectrum and will handle anything you throw at them. But like anything else, there is always a + or - spec, which is also usually pretty wide. Not sure what it is in these sensors. But the ECM has the ability of compensating.

From experience, the gains aren't that great unless you improve the volume further down the line. But it does drop the intake temps by 10 degrees. 10 degrees isn't enough to make any significant differences. But every little bit helps.

Example to that is a stage 2 air horn, boost tube, grid heater delete, and a big intercooler. I still suggest the BD because I know that works. The more volume you deliver to the engine, the better it will perform. The stock air box flows well internally, but needs additional flow modifications. I cut a 3" hole in the front and put a piece of aluminum dryer vent out to the grill. The faster you go, the more air forced into it.

Doing all this under the hood doesn't do didly unless you address better flowing exhaust.

 

Oh! That makes since and quite interesting. I hope I didn't offend you, because that was not my intention. I guess the way I read your post was the sensors were calibrated for a specific value, not a wide spectrum as you mentioned. I never would have guessed the increase in volume would go down the tube any differently.

I am with you on doing the other mods you mentioned. I will eventually get there...just one step at a time.

Thanks for bringing that to light about the air flow and the sensors. With the new S&B on, I will see how it works out over the next couple weeks. If I don't think it is doing what it should, I will put the stock box back in to see if anything changes.

 

My siggestion is to keep the stock system around for the future. I know the After markets look cool and are functional to a point, you may be needing it when you do the intake side.

I didn't see where you are located, but make sure you replace the flapper with a heater if you are in colder climates. I went with the Shibby system which worked out extremely well.

I didn't take any offense. it never occured to me so forget about it. It's about information for you. I have done allot of upgrades to my truck and tore most out, going with my instincts.

Today I saw 32 on my overhead while running Rt 80 at 65 MPH. Whoa baby. Unfortunately I can't tell you how I am doing all of it. Lary will have my butt

Edit
Las Vegas. . . You won't need a heater unless you travel north. Been through there

 

The wife driving and you in the bed talking. Im gonna assume that all that extra hot air assisted a la turbo boost....

 

J'm not your average gas bag.

I have something I can't discuss on the forum that is working