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Excuse my mistakes in advance. I’m new to the all these. Need any input. I own a 2013 Cummins diesel 6.7 that want stay running more than two seconds.
I removed and cleaned the EGR valve and cooler, still nothing. If I do a full delete would that fix the problematic codes?
It’s has two stored/pending/permanent codes
P003A
P0562
Several permanent codes
P2228
P0501
P1193
P0472
P040D
P0405
P2495
P0102
P02E8
P02E9
P0471
P229
U059F
P04E2
P1C54
P003A
P0562
I removed and cleaned the EGR valve and cooler, still nothing. If I do a full delete would that fix the problematic codes?
It’s has two stored/pending/permanent codes
P003A
P0562
Several permanent codes
P2228
P0501
P1193
P0472
P040D
P0405
P2495
P0102
P02E8
P02E9
P0471
P229
U059F
P04E2
P1C54
P003A
P0562
That is a whole bunch of codes that are for a wide variety of the truck sensors/systems. Some of them are for the same sensor one reading high voltage another reading low voltage for the same system.. I would guess electrical issue somewhere. First thing would be to check and clean all of the grounds and there are at least 5 or 6 if not more. After verifying they are good and cleaned up then I might start looking at ecm/pcm wiring. I know little about the later wiring systems but I will bet money that is some type of electrical malfunction or ecm/pcm issue though I didnt see an ecm/pcm specific code. It may be a real pain to find it. Perhaps someone on here can put up an ecm pinout diagram as well as wiring diagram for the truck or try and find one on the net if you dont have a service manual.
I very seriously doubt a delete will fix it. the dtc's are so widespread and some effect systems that would have nothing to do with a delete such as the one that has to do with the charging system, but many of them do have to do with emissions systems. I would check both battery voltages separately to make sure they are good a bad battery can cause a lot of funky issues.
Did this just start happening all of a sudden or has it been a slow burn over the last however many weeks/months?
I very seriously doubt a delete will fix it. the dtc's are so widespread and some effect systems that would have nothing to do with a delete such as the one that has to do with the charging system, but many of them do have to do with emissions systems. I would check both battery voltages separately to make sure they are good a bad battery can cause a lot of funky issues.
Did this just start happening all of a sudden or has it been a slow burn over the last however many weeks/months?
For the past two summers the truck would go into limp mode, but only when the outside temperature is really hot. I found out if I shut the truck off for a few minutes, it would fix itself. Three weeks ago I had dual steering stabilizer put on and the following week it went into limp mode but this time shutting it off did not correct it. I have been doing research and read that the fuel shutoff switch could cause the truck not to start.
I am not a mechanic. So anything I say is suspect.
while a fuel shutoff solenoid going bad may keep it from starting I doubt it would be responsible for all those codes and suspect that whatever is causing those codes is also responsible for the no start
while a fuel shutoff solenoid going bad may keep it from starting I doubt it would be responsible for all those codes and suspect that whatever is causing those codes is also responsible for the no start
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Permanent Codes cannot be cleared until the issue that caused them is resolved. Some codes will prevent the truck from starting. None of the codes are fuel-related, so starting there would cause more problems as you are trying to troubleshoot a non-existent problem.
P0562 - battery voltage detected by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is less than a calibrated value
I'd say if your batteries are 2-3 years old, have them load tested - if they are older - just replace them. After 11 years, I am now on my 4th set of batteries. OEM lasted 3 years, first replacement (AGM) lasted a little over 3 years, set I just replaced was just over 4 years old - they were only replaced because of the alternator (which was also replaced).
Even if the truck kicks over just fine, the cells in the batteries could be going bad. The PCM will do weird things when it doesn't detect the correct voltage.
The above code could simply be the batteries, wiring, or the PCM - which will prevent the truck from starting.
The rest of the codes really lean towards wiring or PCM. Is your truck all stock?
I'd start troubleshooting P0562 before looking at the rest of the codes.
P0562 - battery voltage detected by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is less than a calibrated value
I'd say if your batteries are 2-3 years old, have them load tested - if they are older - just replace them. After 11 years, I am now on my 4th set of batteries. OEM lasted 3 years, first replacement (AGM) lasted a little over 3 years, set I just replaced was just over 4 years old - they were only replaced because of the alternator (which was also replaced).
Even if the truck kicks over just fine, the cells in the batteries could be going bad. The PCM will do weird things when it doesn't detect the correct voltage.
The above code could simply be the batteries, wiring, or the PCM - which will prevent the truck from starting.
The rest of the codes really lean towards wiring or PCM. Is your truck all stock?
I'd start troubleshooting P0562 before looking at the rest of the codes.
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P0562-BATTERY VOLTAGE LOW
For a complete wiring diagram, refer to the Wiring Information.- When Monitored:With the key on or the engine running.
- Set Condition:The battery voltage detected by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is less than a calibrated value.
Possible Causes
BATTERY TERMINAL CONNECTIONSACCESSORY WIRING
BATTERY
HIGH RESISTANCE IN WIRE HARNESS
POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE (PCM)Always perform the Pre-Diagnostic Troubleshooting procedure before proceeding. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Powertrain Control (PCM) - Standard Procedure).
1.CHECK THE BATTERY TERMINAL CONNECTIONS
NOTE: If DTCs P0622 or P2503 are present, repair those DTCs before continuing with this test.
1. Visually inspect the positive and negative connections at the batteries and inspect the battery negative connections at the engine block.
Are the connections free of corrosion and are they tight?
Yes
- Go To 2
No
- Repair the poor connections.
- Perform the POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST - 6.7L. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Powertrain Control (PCM) - Standard Procedure).
1. Check for add-on or accessory wiring at positive (+) terminal of the battery.
Are there any damaged wires at the battery?
Yes
- Repair accessory wiring.
- Perform the POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST - 6.7L. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Powertrain Control (PCM) - Standard Procedure).
No
- Go To 3
1. Perform battery load test using the Midtronics Micro 420 battery system tester.
Did the batteries pass the test?
Yes
- Go To 4
No
- Replace the weak battery or batteries.
- Perform the POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST - 6.7L. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Powertrain Control (PCM) - Standard Procedure).
1. Turn the ignition off.
2. Disconnect the PCM harness connectors.
3. Disconnect the battery terminals.
4. Measure the resistance from the positive and negative battery posts to the appropriate circuits in the PCM harness connector.
Is the resistance below 5.0 Ohms?
Yes
- Go To 5
No
- Repair the high resistance in the wire harness.
- Perform the POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST - 6.7L. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Powertrain Control (PCM) - Standard Procedure).
1. Reconnect the battery terminals.
2. Measure and record the voltage between battery positive pins of the PCM connector and the battery negative circuits of the PCM harness connector.
3. Reconnect the PCM harness connectors.
4. Use the scan tool to measure and record battery voltage.
Are the readings within 3.0 Volts of each other?
Yes
- Perform the INTERMITTENT CONDITION diagnostic procedure. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Powertrain Control (PCM) - Standard Procedure).
- Replace and program the Powertrain Control Module in accordance with the service information.
- Perform the POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST - 6.7L. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Powertrain Control (PCM) - Standard Procedure).
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So I have narrowed my problem down to low to no power going to the PCM. There is power prior to attempting to start the truck then it is immediate drained. Causing the truck not to start. I’m going to continue to run more test in Joe’s to rule out bedding a new PCM
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