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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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I find that you dont have to put an additive in unless you are finding that you are low in cetene. Which i notice alot in the winter, I use stuff called gen49, seems to work very good, quites my engine down even in the winter with the winter fuel that we get here

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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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From: My head lays down in Murrieta, but the day light hours are spent in San Diego, Ca.
you're right, you don't need to use an additive. we don't put any additive in our fuel. diesel prices are all ready too much, concidering that we burn about 25-30,000 gals a month, we'd lose all of our profit if we had to buy an additive also. not one problem with any of the trucks. well none being contributed to ulsd that is.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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All on-road diesels get lubricty additives put in before the service station gets the fuel. No need for more.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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The most recent issue of "Diesel Power" magazine had a COMPLETE rundown on ULSD fuel; what it means for us driving '06 and earlier diesels, and what's coming down the line. They quote a diesel supplier as saying that the refineries will add other lubricants instead of sulfur if the fuel doesn't meet lubricity specs. It is, in all other aspects, un-sulfured diesel.
'07 and later diesels are equipped with particulate filters, catalytic converters, EGR valves and ECM/EMU's. This means two things to the oilburner crowd- 1: making more power just got more expensive, and 2) we can soon expect California-style emissions inspections.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DBLR
Well several of our stations had the LSD stickers on the pumps and yet all the fuel they have been getting for the last 6 plus months has been ULSD. I asked and they said they had to use some large amount of the new ULSD to flush out the sulfer in the tank before they could change the stickers on the pumps to ULSD and they did put the new ULSD sticker on a few weeks ago. I heard some places down in the LA gulf area could still get LSD due to the damage to the Refineries.
It costs big bucks to change a refinery over from LSD to ULSD. There are still some refineries out there churning out the old LSD because it is more profitable to do so.

As far as lost lubricity in ULSD due to lower sulfur content. The refiners dump additives in to make up for it. It's supposed to have the same lubricity as the LSD. A lesson learned from the early 90's when the sulfur content was cut from 3000+ ppm down to LSD 500 ppm.

Some people will argue with that and say you need additives but I've read a lot of articles on it and I don't think so. The only downside I can see is a slight dropoff in power for the pre '07 engines but it's so insignificant as to not even being noticeable.

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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by northernwheeler
Ok, been wondering, will the ulsd be in effect in Canada, or is this just a U.S. thing? Also, do the trucks been shipped to Canada have all the emisions stuff on them.

The reason I ask is because a friend is looking at getting an 07 with the 6.7L, but the problem is where he works he gets free fuel. The fuel is dyed though, so I don't think it is ulsd. Not completely legal to run purple fuel, but hey it's free. Also, how will this affect farm operations that run dyed fuel in everything?
We've been on ULSD for a while now. I honestly haven't noticed any difference. I have used a conditioner since 1995 in my diesels.(Man- does that date "1995" ever look old!!) We don't have any "stickers" on the pumps up here as far as I've seen??
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