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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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oil filter?

any info on wik oil filter vs baldwin. micron numbers or just plain exp.any and all info appreciated so tex
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 08:35 AM
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The only filters you want to us are the Fleetguard Stratopore, Baldwin, or Donaldson Endurance filters. They provide better filtration than the Wix and Frams. I had all the data for them but I only kept the specs for the Baldwin for some dumb reason.

The Baldwin is 30 mic absolute. I can not remember what the others are for certain.

I know the Donaldson is better, because I decided to replace my Baldwin filters and opt fo the Donaldson Endurance because of it.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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The only filters you want to us are the Fleetguard Stratopore, Baldwin, or Donaldson Endurance filters. They provide better filtration than the Wix and Frams. I had all the data for them but I only kept the specs for the Baldwin for some dumb reason.

The Baldwin is 30 mic absolute. I can not remember what the others are for certain.

I know the Donaldson is better, because I decided to replace my Baldwin filters and opt fo the Donaldson Endurance because of it.

The data sheets for the Donaldson Endurance Synteq (Part# ELF 7349) illustrate their filter contains a synthetic media which is 98.7 percent efficient when faced with 15 micron contaminants,and 50 percent efficient when faced with seven micron contaminants. It is the same filter as the Amsoil EA080 filter (painted different),ranking them first overall as far as standard spin on filters go. I find the cost of the ELF 7349 is significantly less than the Amsiol filter. The Fleetguard Stratapore ranks second at 25um absolute.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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There you go. I was trying to find my emails with the info in there but I must have deleted permenately.

I am adding the Amsoil Bypass ere soon as well for even better filtration. The problem is I have not been able to find a replacement filter for the bypass that is 2mic like the Amsoil filter And that sucker is like 35 bucks!
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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dose amsoil make afuell filter ?
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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dose amsoil make afuell filter ?
Amsoil does not make fuel filters as they source Wix for them. If you want the best filter for the stock cannister, I suggest the Baldwin PF 7977. This filter/water separator is 5 micron absolute at 98.7% efficiency. Here is the Baldwin link in order to locate a supplier near you.

http://www.baldwinfilter.com/

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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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What about K&N oil filters?
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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K&N is junk. The best filters that will fit in stock locations are:

Oil: Donaldson ELF7349 - 15 mic
Fuel: Baldwin PF7977 - 5 mic
Air: OE Filter or Baldwin PA4162
Tranny: OE

For additional filtration, look into the GDP MK-2 fuel filter kit that allows you to run the Donaldson P551313 or the CAT 1R-0750 for 2mic fuel filtration. You will still need to run your stock filter for F/W seperation with this kit.

Also the Amsoil Bypass kit for your oil. It runs the Amsoil EaBP filters. They are very pricy filters but there is no replacment for it right now. This also gives you 2 mic filtration for the oil.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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I think I have replied to my last filter post.

I called the manufacturers. I talked with their engineers.

I know what I want to use and I'm happy.

That said, every new guy comes on here and asks about filters and is filled with a lot of nonsense and opinions. Absolute and 98% are conflicting terms. Absolute means 100%!

There is a great search function on this forum where you can type in 'oil filter' and be buried in information, again, some of it will be bad, some will be good. I recommend you call the manufacturers and ask your own questions. Ask Cummins. Ask Bosch. Ask the oil analysts what they recommend.

Good luck, and the best you can hope for is to be satisfied you are running something you are happy with.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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ask cummins you get cummins answers ask bosch you get bosch ansers ask oil analysts well thats probley the best info you posted.imo so tex
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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ask cummins you get cummins answers ask bosch you get bosch ansers ask oil analysts well thats probley the best info you posted.imo so tex
Yep!!! LOL

And if you ask Fram, they'll tell you theirs is the BEST!!!

I'm using Cummins filters, but mine is still warranted by Cummins. (Fleetguard Stratopore 19035)

Good luck finding your perfect filter!
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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yep fleetguard ore amsoil for now seing iam using amsoil 15-40 cj-4. all info is helpfull .thanks so tex
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Lost Lake
I think I have replied to my last filter post.

I called the manufacturers. I talked with their engineers.

I know what I want to use and I'm happy.

That said, every new guy comes on here and asks about filters and is filled with a lot of nonsense and opinions. Absolute and 98% are conflicting terms. Absolute means 100%!

There is a great search function on this forum where you can type in 'oil filter' and be buried in information, again, some of it will be bad, some will be good. I recommend you call the manufacturers and ask your own questions. Ask Cummins. Ask Bosch. Ask the oil analysts what they recommend.

Good luck, and the best you can hope for is to be satisfied you are running something you are happy with.

While the definition of the word absolute is recognized as such, there are many references and published information within the filtration industry referring to "absolute" as 98.7%. For example, the Filter Manufacturers Council published Technical Service Bulletin 89-5R3 regarding accepted media ratings and methodology.

I cite the following from the afforementioned bulletin,which is also attached for your review:" The two most popular reported media ratings are a nominal micron rating (50%) and an absolute micron rating (98.7%). A nominal rating usually means the filter's media can capture a given percentage of particles of a stated size. For example,a filter might be said to have a nominal rating of 50% for particles 10 micrometers in size or larger. An absolute micron rating can be determined by single-pass or multi-pass testing and is usually obtained by passing a test fluid containing particles of a known size through a small, flat sheet of filter media. Any particles that pass through the media are captured and measured. An absolute rating is also expressed in the form of a percentage of the size of particles captured.

http://www.filtercouncil.org/techdata/tsbs/89-5R3.pdf

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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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At the moment I cannot afford Amsoil so I use Rotella (is this better than Delo and other inexpensive 15-40's out there?), I have been using K&N because they worked really well on all my other gas vehicles each one was at 100k and running strong. Now that I am a newbie to diesel I was looking into a filter for around $10-$15 that would be changed every 3k with new oil. Due to this thread I will be changing to Wix, it sells for around $11. Do any of you see any problem with this choiuce of oil and filter? (besides the Amsoils users). I will be changing to Amsoil some day, I guess I am a little lost and nervous when it comes to oil analysts and what not. On a side note: I am glad all of you are here and I thank you for all your support.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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Do your self and your motor a favor and buy the Fleetgaurd Stratapore filter. It is right in the range that you want to spend.

Also you do not need to change your oil every 3k in a diesel. I run Rotella coventional as well, I change mine every 9k. All the conventionals are about the same. Rotella, Mobil Delvac, Delo or how ever its spelled. They are all fine to use.

http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo.asp?number=LF16035

Also If you think about it. While buying the Amsoil might cost you more now... With how often you changed the oil before, you can extend your changes to every 20k and it ends up costing you less.

If you do every 9k like I do then it pretty much evens out to be the same price.
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