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Old May 4, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Door wind-noise

I intend to go after a really obnoxious wind-noise problem on my 06 3500 today. It only gets bad in a crosswind, and putting the AC into recycle mode helps sometimes. I'm pretty sure it's coming thru the seal between my door and frame, but the seals aren't torn or anything. Will have to do this myself because my dealer recently closed down leaving us all high & dry. Nearest dealer is now a couple hundred miles away.

Using search, I found the info on moving the striker in a little. So that will be step 1. If that doesn't get the job done, are the hinges adjustable to the non-mechanic? Or has anyone tried putting some thin weatherstrip foam over the existing seal to build it up some?

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Old May 4, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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The hinges aren't adjustable, you can move them slightly, but they aren't adjustable per se. It won't help though, I had the body shop across the street from me try adjusting the door, didn't help.

Still need to pick up a large set of Torx to move the latch.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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This is going to sound crazy but trust me! I have a freind that works in a body shop. I ask him about the wind noise coming from from the door window area. I wanted him to adjust the door. He got a small peice of 2X4 and block the door open ( set the wood between the latch and the door). He then pushed on the top of the door and "bent" the window frame in so that the window area fits tighter to the door frame. When I say "bent" keep in mind im talking about a very small amount! Sounds crazy but it worked and was free!
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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A lot of people have done that and fixed it, but others like myself are too Chicken-poop to try it.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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thats right

Originally Posted by matt69olds
This is going to sound crazy but trust me! I have a freind that works in a body shop. I ask him about the wind noise coming from from the door window area. I wanted him to adjust the door. He got a small peice of 2X4 and block the door open ( set the wood between the latch and the door). He then pushed on the top of the door and "bent" the window frame in so that the window area fits tighter to the door frame. When I say "bent" keep in mind im talking about a very small amount! Sounds crazy but it worked and was free!
Yup ,thats fix's the door's , had same problem with a ford years ago and a body shop friend did the same thing. It worked, scared me a little because he really pushed on the window frame. My 09 2500 is the same way so it'll get the door push soon.
gordy
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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I moved my striker plate in and that helped a lot, however there was still an obnoxious wind noise. I finally figured out it was the towing mirrors. They were vibrating where the two halves of the plastic cover join together at the top. To fix it, I just put a tiny dab of super glue in the joint on each mirror. Problem solved!
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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That sounds worth a try (the 2x4 thing). If I can't make any progress with the amount of force I'm willing to use, it might pay to take it to a body shop. If they screw up the door I could pound on them to fix it again.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by randallp84
I moved my striker plate in and that helped a lot, however there was still an obnoxious wind noise. I finally figured out it was the towing mirrors. They were vibrating where the two halves of the plastic cover join together at the top. To fix it, I just put a tiny dab of super glue in the joint on each mirror. Problem solved!

Did the mirror cause noise only in crosswinds or all the time? I do have towing mirrors, but mine only is noisy in crosswinds and I'm pretty sure it's a door-seal thing. No obvious wind noise when not windy outside.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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I have the same problem in cross winds and I have the standard (non-tow) mirrors. I thought at first it was the window glass seal, but I now know it's the door frame seal.

Looking at the seal the other day I wondered if it would be just as easy to lift the door seal and add a thin foam or similar type spacer under the seal to lift it up and out to create a better airtight seal with the door frame. If the spacer idea doesn't pan out I guess I'll just need to flex the door and see if that works.

By the way, did the body shops do it with the window up or down when they flexed the door frame?
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Old May 4, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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Step 1 complete. Moved the striker in about 1/8". Requires a T50 torx and a 1/2-drive socket is probably a better bet than a little L-wrench.

Of course this is the first in several days the wind's NOT blowing so I can't check it out. I did take a look at how the seal works. Appears to be a dual seal with a lip at the top of the door and a tube below that. Both bear on painted steel door window frame. I think if I lined the bare steel door area where the seal hits with thin, wide weather stripping foam it might provide a tighter seal. Easy to try.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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My body man would not bend the window frame with the 2x4 trick.......he had one completely break over on him......i set back the latch and it worked great......no more buffeting or wind noise.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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My '04 has always been totally quiet. No wind noise at all.... and then I got a hearing aid for my left ear! Wow, I didn't know that hearing aids could cause such wind noise at the door!
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Old May 5, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by WAM
Did the mirror cause noise only in crosswinds or all the time? I do have towing mirrors, but mine only is noisy in crosswinds and I'm pretty sure it's a door-seal thing. No obvious wind noise when not windy outside.
It seems like it was most obvious in crosswinds. It sounded just like a leak in the door seal. If you don't want to put super glue on your mirrors yet, you can wrap about 2 rounds of masking tape around them and if the wind noise stops, you've found your problem. That's how I found out for sure.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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I tried everything trying to get my doors to seal even bought new weather stripping. The problem ended up being the rubber piece the glass actually sits in, it was not sealing around the window frame. I took some black silicone and laid a bead in the rubber and re-installed and walla the wind noise is gone.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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Remember to roll the window down before attempting to bend the top of the door. I tried it a little as I was affraid to try too hard. It's a little better, but needs more. I didn't want to mess with the stricker etc because the door is aligned perfectly.

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