Well im telling the truth my truck doesent do it anymore. And hopefully it wont. Same as the CRD! And i have a HTS TRANs,

 

Service Writers can't fix a manufacturer design "flaw". Until Dodge determines there is an issue and designs a "fix", the best Service Writer in the world ain't gonna be able to help.

 

Well truthfully that's not a bad price to fix it for good. I imagine there's other advantages to having the VB replaced anyway. However, perhaps just replacing the VB with new will correct it. Not sure.

 

The real problem is the lack of true mechanics at dealerships. Having clueless service writers to deal with compounds the problem. A lot of them cannot even communicate the problem to the tech working on the truck.

Most automotive technicians these days are nothing more than parts changers. If they can't plug in their computer and have it diagnose the fault, they usually cannot fix the problem.

Some strive to fix the problem anyway by swapping parts out in search of a fix. This happened with my father's '96. They replaced the converter, valve body, and cooler lines in search of a fix. It was never fixed. They determined it was a defective housing. Not sure how that has anything to do with the draining of the fluid. It did not leak. This parts-swapping diagnosis is one of the reasons Chrysler/Dodge is restricing some parts. It gets very expensive to repair vehicles this way.

By going to an independent shop with a trusted mechanic you can usually have the problem diagnosed and fixed in short order. Sure, it may cost you a few bucks, but how much is your time worth? I don't want to waste multiple days bringing my truck in again and again for the same problem. I went there with my father's truck years ago, and I won't do it with mine. They'll have one chance to fix it. If they don't, I'll find my own solution.

It's only a matter of time before I'll have to buy a fully built tranny anyway.

 

I'll agree that their hands are tied to what Dodge tells them they can do to fix the problem. In this case though I don't think there's an arguement that it's right or normal. It's clearly not right albeit common maybe. So they have all the power they need to get to the root cause, but only until someone keeps pushing their buttons to find the cause.

The problem I see with taking it to an independent shop is that I pay for it when I've effectively already paid for the problem once. I mean the warrenty is Dodge's cost that's built into the vehicle. If there wasn't a warrenty on vehicles, I'm sure they could afford to sell them for less. Why should I pay twice? Is it worth my time? I suppose for some, but in my case no. The dealer is less then a mile away. Not much time involved really.

As for the fully built tranny...I'm hoping to stay away from that for a while.

 

Well verdict is in. They just say they can't duplicate it. It supposedly went right into gear this morning and never missed a beat. BS...it does it everytime it sits more then 8-12 hours. Worse when it's cold out.

I'll wait till temps cool down and I'll get in it with another tech at a different dealership. It'll be more obvious and it'll be easier to prove that way.

So I guess no Triple Dog for me.....

 

my 04 would slip and the rpms would jump between 1-2 they told me the same thing so i let them put it out in the morning then when i went to pick it up at night i made the tec sit in passanger seat and took it off the lot you could hear the rpms spike and see it clear as day on the tac a 1000-1500 jump is not normal so after i went around the block the tec went came back out and took my keys 3 days latter i had a new tc in the truck. it was a hemi by the way not a cummins

 

Well the HEMI would likely have the other trans (45re), which actually has a TSB bulletin for that problem now, but your right. I think that's the next step. Sit the tech down and show him what it's doing.

 

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My suggestion: just call HTS and relate this problem to them and see what they have to say. My guess is it will be very informative whatever you may decide.

I definitely don't think you should have to be going through this. Not right at all. But time IS money and improved parts is peace of mind and worth $$ too.

Your call. Eventually, you will reach your limit if you keep jacking with dealers. I just happen to reach this almost instantly. No patience

 

Since we're on the Bully Dog note here. The common theme seems to be everyone removes the Bully Dog Program to stock, then takes the truck in so that the dealer a) doesn't over flash the TDBD programming, and b) so they don't know you've been running a programmer. The problem is, doesn't the monitor give away the fact that you've been running a programmer. I bet not many run full gauges or digital guages and not run a programmer. I'm sure there's some though. Even if you pull the gauges you'll have a hole in the manifold I'd think.

 

the simple answer is to run traditional gauges instead of the outlook monitor. plenty of people run gauges on their trucks especially if they tow even if they're not using a tuner or box but no one uses the outlook monitor if they're not running a bd tuner.

 

I hate the look of gauges though. The oulook was nice due to it's small size.

 

PMT all in one easy to remove and reinstal

 

Exactly. This is the oldest Dodge tranny problem there is. They have been famous for not moving in the morning since at least the '60s. My '65 Plymouth, my '74 Power Wagon, my '83 Ram, my '93 Ram, and my '04 Ram ALL have or had the problem. It won't hurt a thing but is annoying.


John

 

My truck will go the minute you put it in gear. Does it not happen to all trannys?