I know on mine I felt the "thump" from my track bar mount in my steering wheel. So I thought that he may have misdiagnosed the problem as the steering shaft.

If he is sure the steering shaft is the problem, then disregard any of my comments about the wallowed track bar mount. It certainly wouldn't hurt to check it though.......just get under the truck when it's running and have someone turn the steering wheel back and forth. If it's "popping" you can see it.

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SUK35, is all this talk about 4x4 only, or does the 2WD have the same issue?

 

Wrong. Have you had the shaft out? That pin is not part of he collasiple assembly. It holds the upper and lower shaft together inside a rubber bushing. The pin elongates the hole in the rubber and causes slop. The rubber is to prevent vibrations from travelling up the shaft to the steering wheel. I have not noticed any extra vibration though.

Spend $900CDN on a new shaft or pull shaft and check this pin and spend $3 on a bolt.

Don't bother with the Borgesen. Its a piece of crap. Bought one, it was for a 2nd gen, was told it fit 2nd and 3rd gen trucks, it didn't. Returned it, waited 6 weeks for a 3rd gen to arrieve, when I went to install it it was 6" too long so I returned it as well. Wasn't too impressed with the cheesy locknuts on it either. After I returned it I read a post on here about someone who had their Brogenson shaft fall off driving on washboard due to those cheesy locknuts.

Do a search on here and you'll find it.

 

As TexasCTD stated it could be the track bar giving you a thump or pop and lazarsmith's track bar hardware is great for that. But if you are positive you have play in your sector shaft try his SSSSS (Steering Shaft Sector Stabilizer)- or something like that. I know from personal experience that it really tightens up te steering.

 

The 2wd clunking is from the intermediate shaft. Mine will knock when the temperature drops. I'll be removing it soon to lube the spline shaft.

MikeyB

 

ok, sounds good...didn't realize that...I have seen people replace the shear pin with a bolt!

 

So you ordered a part and it came in wrong, then it came again and it was too long. so that makes the part crap. Hmm ok.
I bought a borgenson shaft and thought it was too long as well but its telescopic. So I had to use more force than i thought I would need to colapse it to fit. So Maybe it just wasnt colapsed all the way?
On the lock nut. My directions said to lock tight the set screw and lock nut. All the set screw does is tighten the shaft on the splines and prevent back and forth movement. My shaft only fit on 1 way and had a groove in the middle of the splines for the set screw. So for a haft to just fall off it was loose for quite a long time before it just "fell" off. Not saying it didnt happen but having installed a few of these and reading others that have this is suprising.

Flaming river makes a bling shaft that works well and has grease fittings.

 

$95 for bushings and a sleeve is pretty steep.

 

The shaft was defiantly compressed all of the way. I'm a HD mechanic by trade and I've pulled and installed all kinds of shafts, steering, PTO, driveline, etc. I know what I'm doing. The shaft I received from Borgsen looked like something I could have built with yokes from a local farm store. I see those type of yokes on PTO quite often. For my steering shaft I'd prefer something that has a lock nut. You can only get so much torque on a small allen key.

There were also a lot of those locknuts, the yokes were just held onto the yokes shafts with them. They weren't welded on or bolted on with a thru bolt or anything.

 

my steering shafts had both, a lock nut and an allen bolt.

Not calling you a liar just speaking from the experiences I have had with bogensons. They always looked like quality material. every single one of them were hard to extend or retract the first time but once it moves it goes back and forth fine.

I never heard any complaints about their product, I hang out on Pirate 4x4 and havent read any bad experiences.

It is by far better than stock though.

 

How did you guys get the stock shaft out? I took the clamps off each ends, but I can't figure out how to get the stock shaft through the rubber grommet in the firewall. Any help?

 

Sorry I should have been more clear, mine did have a locknut on the allen bolt but I would prefer to see something a bit better on a steering shaft like a nylock type of locking nut. I can certainly see how it could rattle loose with just that wimpy allen head bolt(which makes it hard to get a good torque on anyway) and a plain old nut.

Personally I think the stock shaft was a better shaft, too bad they wanted $900 for it. Oh well, it been about a year now and my mod is still working great and old cost me one bolt and nut.

I'm on Pirate too, don't believe everything you read. Too many people jump on the bandwagon(good or bad).

 

I think if I remember correctly either I took the rubber gromet with it or I slit it a bit so it would slide thru. I believe their is a a bushing or something inside of that rubber boot.

 

I also bought the Borgeson last week and had it installed, my first problem was that it had to be cut 6" to fit. Even fully compressed it was too long for my 3rd generation dually. 2nd problem was that it rattled more than my worn out factory shaft. I paid close to 300 bucks for it had to cut it up to fit and now its useless, if anyone wants it they can have it for $100.00.

 

Forgot to mention that the factory shaft is round and the Borgeson is squared off on the sides therefore the rubber grommet from factory does not work correctly and allows engine noise in the cab to pass through.