test fit the new 35x12.50x17 mt's today and rubbed badly in fender well. trimmed inner part of fender flare and tire still sits almost against fender flare and sheet metal in wheel well. did'nt think i'd have this much of an issue with 3 1/2" of front lift. do not want to remove fender flare and perform sheet metal surgery so was wondering if going to longer or adjustable control arms (have stock arms now) would move the axle the 1 1/2" or so i need to clear these tires. had been running mickey t 33x12.50x17 mtz's on moto 951's (not sure of backspacing) previously with plenty of clearance.

 

If it's rubbing that bad then I dont think 33's are going to be much better.

The problem lies with your rims.

Why dont you put your 35's on the stock rims? They should fit no problem.

Or just look for rims that are the same size as the stockers.

I dont have the specs for the stockers but I believe my Eagle Alloy 114's are 18X9 with 5" of BS. I was able to run my 35" toyos this combo on a stock truck. The only time I'd rub would be entering a parking lot too fast with the tires turned hard.

Goodluck

 

what do you think about the control arms? it seems like i would just need to move the axle forward about 1 1/2" for a good fit. i really don't want to have to buy new rims and the stockers are long gone- only about $300 for new control arms. the current moto 951's are 17x9 and i think 4.53" of backspacing.

 

Mine don't rub at all on my stock wheels. Those things must be really sticking out there.

 

you need new control arms for that lift stock control arms only work with a leveling kit. I am running a 35 x-terrain with just a leveling kit no rub I have a 5" backspacing on a 17x9 wheel

 

agreed, IMO 3.5"s of lift on the stock control arms is gona have your axle sittin back too far.

 

Wow my 35" toyos just barely rub at full lock and hitting a bump or dip but other than that no issues at all and all I have is a leveling kit....

 

its the wheels and the backspacing. IMHO

I run 37s with 3" of lift and only did minor fender trimming. With 35s, there was no rubbing problems at all.

 

i'm not quite sure what you mean. the difference between different wheels of the same size that has a bearing on tire fit is the backspacing. generally a 17x9 wheel with 5.5"-6" of backspacing (like stock wheel) will help in the fit of 35's compared to the 4.53" of backspacing i have now.

 

i think your good fit is because of good wheel (backspacing) choice. what is the backspacing on your wheels? i've come to find out you can get a lot more favorable backspacing options when you go with a larger diameter wheel.

 

I imagine w/ that backspacing of your wheel. Your rubbing the control arm and back lower rear fender well. Upgrade the control arms to pull it forward back to specs. This will elevate the rubbing of the fender well. Not much you can do w/ the rubbing of the control arm w/ 4.75" of backspacing w/ 35" tire.

The optimal backspacing for our Dodges is 6" of backspacing, but you can get away w/ atleast 5". The stock wheels are 6.25" of backspacing and even then w/ 35" tires on stock wheels. You will get minor rubbing of the control arm.

 

I miss typed, backspacing is the issue. Sorry

 

i'm not getting any rubbing on the control arm at all- it all has to do with where the sheet metal makes that 90* turn into the fender well. i think just about the only good thing about backspacing like i have now is that it takes the wheel and tire far enough away from the control arm. after doing some measuring it seems i am just about as centered in the wheel well as my buddy's '06 is at stock height. i talked with the most reputable off road shop around here and he said the only reason a 3 1/2" lifted vehicle would need control arms would be if there was a castor problem with alignment. he said putting in control arms made for 3 1/2"-4" of lift would set the axle forward a tiny amount (less than 1/4"). he also said it's not uncommon for him to send new body style dodges with less than 6" of lift down the road to the body shop for some slight fender trimming/adjustment to clear large 35's like the toyo mt's. do you feel differently as i'm trying to look at this from all angles for a solution.

 

If you get adjustable control arms (Thuren Fabrication). Then you can pull them forward to your liking to get the fender well clearence. All it takes is about a 1/2" forward to make a difference. Your right w/ it helping w/ the caster when aligning back to correct specs. That's the only thing I can think of w/o getting new wheels w/ proper backspacing w/o any rubbing or trimming.

I almost would think you would have rubbing on the upper control arms w/ 9' wide w/ your backspacing when turning the wheel. There are probably rub marks on them if you look. Maybe not bad enough to feel on road, but off road w/ any articulation you will feel it. All that is how much you can tolerate it rubbing.

Also a side note. Your axles will be off center from side to side w/ the stock trac bar. Unless you have a drop bracket when putting the level kit on. You will need a adj. trac bar to recenter the axles.

 

did track bar bracket and pitman arm at same time as rest of lift. no marks on control arm from rubbing though and have'nt felt any-pretty sure i would've noticed as local gravel roads around here are like going 4 wheeling for many. going to check into the adjustable control arms and see if they will move axle enough to help with clearance- THANX.