sorry for the ignorant question but what is the low smoke program on the smarty. I only knew about the different torque settings that were avaliable to download

 

No ignorance at all! I had to PM Bob to get it, and I still haven't found the file anywhere on the download page yet! http://www.madselectronics.com/downl...eV309D105D.zip

I PMed him and asked for a low smoke program because driving a 6 speed on almost ANY smarty tune w/ little or no TQ management results in too much smoke for stop and go city driving. I wanted something that was low smoke in normal driving, and that's EXACTLY what that is. It definitely isn't as touchy on the go pedal as the normal smarty programs, but it obvioulsy hauls when you put your foot into it. It still smokes like crazy at WOT or if you lay into it a little too much at too low of an RPM. I really wish I could have played around with this tune more on the dyno because it spanked both crazy larry and the wild Smarty tunes! Without loading the dyno, it made 505 HP and 920 tq, which actually was off-peak torque because the optical pick-up lost signal right at torque peak. The best the other tunes made was 500ish HP and just under 900 ft/lbs (when we didn't load the truck up w/ the dyno brake before making the pull).

 

Thanks! That's EXACTLY how I feel. I figure if I stack a module like a Quad Race or TST and run the Smarty on SW8, it'll easily crest 1000 ft/lbs....the HP is there now, just a little shy on the torque. Heck....I don't see any reason why another 50 ft/lbs wouldn't come out of the truck if the dyno would load it hard enough to make 50 psi of boost!

 

Kevin,

As much as I would like to think this was a concern, we double strapped the rear axle, AND tightened them as much as physically possible while the truck was turning the rollers in 3rd gear. I am positive there was no tire spin on the dyno.

I'm going to have to get back over there and clean their wall. Even with a 4x4' sheet of plywood next to the tail pipe, it left a nice black outline around the wood after only 8 pulls

 

Okay, I was posting the SAE numbers here last night! I finally downloaded the free WinPep software to view my files. I will take some screen shots and post them up on a new thread. Uncorrected maxes last night were much nicer, mainly b/c the conditions were great. Mid 50s temps and 35% humidity. The best number was 539/990!!! MUCH better, and I know I can crest 1000 now with just a few tweaks w/ the MP8 and different smarty tunes (OR maybe the scary larry tune!)

 

Call Xtreme Truck and Trailer and try out the Scary Larry! we don't have a dyno close but i would LOVE to do the same comparisons you are.

Nicely done!

 

Rob,

Is the link you posted the program they consider to be low smoke? If so it's listed as the aftermarket injectors and turbo program with stock torque management, which can be found at the following download page:

http://www.madselectronics.com/DownloadMODS04A.html

Its my understanding that this program just has reduced timing with boost fooling. Not sure how it would reduce smoke, unless the stock torque management is just keeping your right foot in check.

 

Yeah, I might have to do that

 

Ah, thanks for finding it...I don't know why/how I missed it.

I told Bob I had stock injectors, but that's the file he sent anyway.

It must be the stock torque management. It basically removes the WAYYY over sensative pedal on the more aggressive TQ management programs. It's far from just a right foot issue...there's no way to accelerate at a reasonable pace w/o smoke otherwise. On this tune, the truck's response is much more like stock, even with the MP8, up to about 1/8th throttle, then it comes alive with anything more than 1/8th throttle. With the more aggressive settings, at least on a 6 speed truck, you can't accelerate enough to keep up with traffic without smoking out everyone behind you. The only time it was very low smoke on the wild or moderate tune was when I'd accelerate like grandma with people passing me left and right. I'm going to try a stock injector, aftermarket turbo, MILD torque management program to see how it acts with smoke. I am anything but an environmentalist, but covering cars in smoke every time I accelerate normally from a stop AND on every shift gets REALLY old and fast! The aftermarket turbo, while it spools quickly, still lags a split second longer on each shift making it smoke that much more

 

I also have a six speed manual and I'm not a fan of the different torque management levels, and just run with stock torque management. At no point has the other levels, including wild, felt any stronger at WOT no matter what RPM I'm at. The only "real" difference the levels do on my truck is change the sensitivity of the throttle, so much that it's hard to keep the smoke in check.

Maybe you should try the stock injectors with aftermarket turbo program w/stock torque management so you get the benefits of additional timing without the smoke? Just a thought.

 

Yep...I am transferring a stock injector, aftermarket turbo MILD program onto the smarty as I type this. I don't mind a touch more throttle sensativity than the stock TQ management programs. If it's too smokey, I'll go to stock tq man w/ stock injectors/aftermarket turbo.

Thanks!

 

Sps 62 is 71mm
Silver 62 is 74mm

 

Obben, thanks for the info.

Rob, do you know of any reason to NOT run decreased tq management other than the smoke?

I mean with a good clutch is there any danger of breakin anything with out tq management vs with tq management?

 

Your right foot are the best torquemanagement
But if you have to let some friends drive it....... thats antother story.

 

Where did you get this info? Brandon at II told me the only difference was an extra blade on the turbine housing, and a different type of metal for the wheel. They are supposed to both have 71mm turbine housings, unless I was told differently.