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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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With the Smarty in the mix...you will not have to run the Quad above 50% or so...and your truck will be more in the safe zone pressure wise. Get a rail gauge and you will see. Run 60, 90, 130, and 170 to see what you like as a daily driver...then turn up the quad stacked...for you adjustible kill settings!
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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so the timing with both the smarty and quad wont be overkill? so i can just leave the quad connected, turned down and run the smarty as much as i want? does it add fuel low? i know it really improves throttle response, so i assume it is alittle better on spool then.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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I don't think the combined timing will be too much...

It is a truck to trick thing however. Listen for rattle or other tell tale signs...
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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OK OK OK OK OK

Downloaded software #2 and loade SW9 intot he truck.....YES! YES! YES!

The smoke is controllable because the pedal is not as sensative!..I love it...push the pedal a little more and it feels the same and software #3. I thin this is the ticket. Shifts feel good. 1-2 under light to moderate throttle are great. WOT is great as it was before too.

I was watching my rail pressure gauge...and it looks like software #2 does not ramp up the rail quite as quick...but it eventually gets to the same value. I can now fine tune the bottom end ramp up so to speak with slight turn of the MP-8 ****...if I want that super quick hit/smokefest off the bottom. It seems like I can have the best of both worlds now with just a twist of a ****.

Marco...am I right about the difference being that the rail pressure does not quite ramp up as quick on the #2 software vs. the #3 software? I like being to adjust that with the MP-8 (since it will fool Smarty into acting like software #3 if I want! )

Is the timing the same between softwares? I have not had a timing problem at all yet...but the TST will be tossed back into the mix soon.

For now...I think I wil use software #2 and try programs SW5,7,9 and dial in the right amount of TST duration and a little more auto timing (3 or 6 degrees over the top) to get my top end back.

I am really excited...thew bottom and mid power is dialed on this truck now!
Now to work on tuning 400 thru 600 hp!

Marco...please share as much as you can...regarding above...when you have time.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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I don't want to interfere with the great conversation going on here but wanted to let Marco, Bob and the members here know something about the "Smarty."

Last night at "Coastal Plains Dragway" in Jacksonville, N.C., Cris Sonnichsen (DTR Member Name: masonic-dodge) was able to get his 2005 Dodge CTD CR equipped as listed below FINALLY into the 12's in the quarter mile!! His best previous run prior to the install of the "Smarty" was 13.0 at 100 MPH!
The "Smarty" woke that truck up like you would not believe! IMO,...the bottom was almost twice as good as it was before! Definitely a GREAT product Marco has produced and Bob has marketed for all of us! Great job guys!

Cris Sonnichsen's 2005 Dodge CTD CR:

Full DTT Transmission
TST PM 3 CR "stacked" with TS Performance MP-8
HTT Phat Shaft 64/12
Industrial Injection Stage II CP-3
Don M Flux 100 H.P. CR Injectors
5" Maganaflow Exhaust
Snow Water Meth Kit

Here is Cris's time slip from the fastest run:

Reaction: .802
60 ft. : 1.81
330 ft. : 5.17
1/8 E.T.: 8.03
1/8 MPH: 85.20
1/4 E.T.: 12.65
1/4 MPH: 104

The Smarty cut 4/10ths off of the E.T. and gave Cris four (4) MPH on his top end speed. I made a later run with his truck and gained seven (7) MPH on the top end 1/4 speed. Very impressive!

Thanks for a great product Marco!

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John_P

Last edited by John_P; Sep 22, 2006 at 10:42 AM. Reason: Added performance option in wrong place.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Thanks for a great product Marco!
I'd like to have something intelligent to add here but all that comes to my mind is THANK YOU. Thanks for your patience! I know it took a lot of it waiting for the CR Smarty! Thanks for sharing your experiences with my lil toy. Thanks, for your confidence in that Italian guy and his never seen before product! It really means a lot to me!

At this point a SPECIAL thanks needs to go to Bob.
Without his enthusiasm ( SP? ), energy, friendship, today we would most likely not have a Smarty. When I was tired, KO'ed he was always there offering his help without ever asking for anything. If you ever need a buddy, Bob is DA MAN!

OK Ok I'll quit!

cquestad

The different updates for Smarty use different TQM's. Thus the different readings you're seeing. The timing remains the same in all updates.

Have FUN!

Marco
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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will the TQM not hit my already weakened clutch too hard? is there a certain rpm at which is begins to back off? the only reason I am worried about that clutch is I have a camping trip planned in 2 weeks and at present the schedule doesnt have room to r&r the clutch. thanks. looking forward to playing with the smarty.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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That's a no brainer!
Download version #1 with stock TQM till the clutch doctor has done his job.
Different software versions for different needs...

Marco
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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thanks marco.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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how is the new software on the highway with the cruise set on something like 75mph? if i keep my truck ill buy one.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Marco...

Please give us your defination of TQM...

I can't tell if you mean just defueling (like the dreaded 3,000 rpm flat spot in
3rd before 4th shift stock for example or the no boost without wheel speed off the line or any other "tranny" saving defuleing) or if you mean "bottom end" fueling.

In other words...should I always have Software #3 in at the track?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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cquestad,
The torque managment ( TQM ) is active in all engine parameters / rpm-load ranges. From the no power brake to the very last Rpm the engine is capable of the TQM IS there. So when it is altered...

Which SW version to use is a difficult question to answer. My truck is still da* fast with version 2. See like with everything new a lot of testing needs to be done before a verdict can be given. That's if it will ever be possible to find the "best for all" solution. Different trucks, different needs, different results.
A saying we have here assumes it pretty good for me. Don't change a winning team. #3 works for you? Keep it!

Marco
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Marco
cquestad,
The torque managment ( TQM ) is active in all engine parameters / rpm-load ranges. From the no power brake to the very last Rpm the engine is capable of the TQM IS there. So when it is altered...

Which SW version to use is a difficult question to answer. My truck is still da* fast with version 2. See like with everything new a lot of testing needs to be done before a verdict can be given. That's if it will ever be possible to find the "best for all" solution. Different trucks, different needs, different results.
A saying we have here assumes it pretty good for me. Don't change a winning team. #3 works for you? Keep it!

Marco

Is new #3 software different than the original Smarty Software I have?????

If it is different, then how, specifically I am looking for all out power on the track and my original Smarty Software seems to do that fine.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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I have a question, how would a smarty work with my present configuration? Anything that I might need to change??

Kevin
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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it works too good with my setup, stacking with the quad just flat kills the clutch. Have to buy clutch, have to buy smarty, then will have to buy new tires.
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