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Hey Don.. I have a question for you and if anyone else wants to chime in with suggestions thats cool. The problem im having is that I have too much fuel. My egts dont get over 1300 but my turbos dont spool fast enough to keep me from smoking constantly. I know I could turn down the smarty.. its on lvl 6 right now but im tired of watching my rearview to make sure im not clouding ppl behind me.. ( big no no here in Vegas ). So here is my question.. I have the II 120s and I would like to know if its possible to send them to Don.. have them checked and fixed if needed ( i have injector tick but not making oil ) and buy some new blank nozzles and have them turned into 90s or maybe a touch smaller.. I want less smoke and I dont wanna spend 4K to get it.. So don please let me know what to do and if anyone else has suggestions please help.. Thanks..
oh yeah.. I used to think black smoke was soo cool like some of the guys on here that dont make much but now I hate it.. except when someone in traffic makes me
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oh yeah.. I used to think black smoke was soo cool like some of the guys on here that dont make much but now I hate it.. except when someone in traffic makes me
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Who is "they " that you refer to???? The price has been a standard of between $125-150 per injector to rebuild for the average repair for well over a year. Hasn't been different for anyone to my knowledge
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We can check and repair anything wrong with injectors. If they are out of spec or not working properly we will find it.
12V,
When we received your injectors I visually noticed 3 solenoids broken. One was blown nearly completely off the end/top of the injector and 2 had broken insulators. I assumed since the injectors were here not long ago that this was all the problems they had. The cost is 150-200 each for solenoid replacement and re-calibration. Thats the original 450 price quote.
As it turns out the solenoids were not the only damage. All 6 injectors are leaking in the seat area from water in the fuel. I dont know how much water, but enough to do harm to all 6 and start algae growth. Once the seats are damaged the solenoids can blow off from excessive fuel back leakage that overwhelms the return circuit under the solenoid. This is why one solenoid was blown nearly off the top.
I went back to the dealer to tell them of the additional work needed to get them back in good shape.
The additional damage I found was:
1) One more bad solenoid that was leaning to one side. It would have blown completely off the next time you hammered the throttle. Now we have 4 total solenoids that need to be replaced.
2 ) Six injectors with high back leakage from water in the fuel system/tank. All 6 need to come apart, be cleaned, repaired, reassembled and re-calibrated.
I was replacing the solenoids for no charge at the 900 price. 900 is just the rebuilding cost. Solenoids are additional. I did this because you were an existing customer. Typically the cost is much higher.
I have the 3 you authorized for repair already done. 3 new solenoids and 3 complete rebuilds. I have 2 others ripped apart already and can reassemble them and send them back. You can use them as cores if you like when you purchase new ones. The last 3 remaining that are not repaired can not be re-installed. They will damage the engine. How fast do you need this all returned?
Hope this helps,
Don~
12V,
When we received your injectors I visually noticed 3 solenoids broken. One was blown nearly completely off the end/top of the injector and 2 had broken insulators. I assumed since the injectors were here not long ago that this was all the problems they had. The cost is 150-200 each for solenoid replacement and re-calibration. Thats the original 450 price quote.
As it turns out the solenoids were not the only damage. All 6 injectors are leaking in the seat area from water in the fuel. I dont know how much water, but enough to do harm to all 6 and start algae growth. Once the seats are damaged the solenoids can blow off from excessive fuel back leakage that overwhelms the return circuit under the solenoid. This is why one solenoid was blown nearly off the top.
I went back to the dealer to tell them of the additional work needed to get them back in good shape.
The additional damage I found was:
1) One more bad solenoid that was leaning to one side. It would have blown completely off the next time you hammered the throttle. Now we have 4 total solenoids that need to be replaced.
2 ) Six injectors with high back leakage from water in the fuel system/tank. All 6 need to come apart, be cleaned, repaired, reassembled and re-calibrated.
I was replacing the solenoids for no charge at the 900 price. 900 is just the rebuilding cost. Solenoids are additional. I did this because you were an existing customer. Typically the cost is much higher.
I have the 3 you authorized for repair already done. 3 new solenoids and 3 complete rebuilds. I have 2 others ripped apart already and can reassemble them and send them back. You can use them as cores if you like when you purchase new ones. The last 3 remaining that are not repaired can not be re-installed. They will damage the engine. How fast do you need this all returned?
Hope this helps,
Don~
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We can check and repair anything wrong with injectors. If they are out of spec or not working properly we will find it.
12V,
When we received your injectors I visually noticed 3 solenoids broken. One was blown nearly completely off the end/top of the injector and 2 had broken insulators. I assumed since the injectors were here not long ago that this was all the problems they had. The cost is 150-200 each for solenoid replacement and re-calibration. Thats the original 450 price quote.
As it turns out the solenoids were not the only damage. All 6 injectors are leaking in the seat area from water in the fuel. I dont know how much water, but enough to do harm to all 6 and start algae growth. Once the seats are damaged the solenoids can blow off from excessive fuel back leakage that overwhelms the return circuit under the solenoid. This is why one solenoid was blown nearly off the top.
I went back to the dealer to tell them of the additional work needed to get them back in good shape.
The additional damage I found was:
1) One more bad solenoid that was leaning to one side. It would have blown completely off the next time you hammered the throttle. Now we have 4 total solenoids that need to be replaced.
2 ) Six injectors with high back leakage from water in the fuel system/tank. All 6 need to come apart, be cleaned, repaired, reassembled and re-calibrated.
I was replacing the solenoids for no charge at the 900 price. 900 is just the rebuilding cost. Solenoids are additional. I did this because you were an existing customer. Typically the cost is much higher.
I have the 3 you authorized for repair already done. 3 new solenoids and 3 complete rebuilds. I have 2 others ripped apart already and can reassemble them and send them back. You can use them as cores if you like when you purchase new ones. The last 3 remaining that are not repaired can not be re-installed. They will damage the engine. How fast do you need this all returned?
Hope this helps,
Don~
12V,
When we received your injectors I visually noticed 3 solenoids broken. One was blown nearly completely off the end/top of the injector and 2 had broken insulators. I assumed since the injectors were here not long ago that this was all the problems they had. The cost is 150-200 each for solenoid replacement and re-calibration. Thats the original 450 price quote.
As it turns out the solenoids were not the only damage. All 6 injectors are leaking in the seat area from water in the fuel. I dont know how much water, but enough to do harm to all 6 and start algae growth. Once the seats are damaged the solenoids can blow off from excessive fuel back leakage that overwhelms the return circuit under the solenoid. This is why one solenoid was blown nearly off the top.
I went back to the dealer to tell them of the additional work needed to get them back in good shape.
The additional damage I found was:
1) One more bad solenoid that was leaning to one side. It would have blown completely off the next time you hammered the throttle. Now we have 4 total solenoids that need to be replaced.
2 ) Six injectors with high back leakage from water in the fuel system/tank. All 6 need to come apart, be cleaned, repaired, reassembled and re-calibrated.
I was replacing the solenoids for no charge at the 900 price. 900 is just the rebuilding cost. Solenoids are additional. I did this because you were an existing customer. Typically the cost is much higher.
I have the 3 you authorized for repair already done. 3 new solenoids and 3 complete rebuilds. I have 2 others ripped apart already and can reassemble them and send them back. You can use them as cores if you like when you purchase new ones. The last 3 remaining that are not repaired can not be re-installed. They will damage the engine. How fast do you need this all returned?
Hope this helps,
Don~
i want the injectors back/shipped as soon as possible, the truck has been down too long! But i want them fixed as good as possible for the later price.
thanks
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We can check and repair anything wrong with injectors. If they are out of spec or not working properly we will find it.
12V,
When we received your injectors I visually noticed 3 solenoids broken. One was blown nearly completely off the end/top of the injector and 2 had broken insulators. I assumed since the injectors were here not long ago that this was all the problems they had. The cost is 150-200 each for solenoid replacement and re-calibration. Thats the original 450 price quote.
As it turns out the solenoids were not the only damage. All 6 injectors are leaking in the seat area from water in the fuel. I dont know how much water, but enough to do harm to all 6 and start algae growth. Once the seats are damaged the solenoids can blow off from excessive fuel back leakage that overwhelms the return circuit under the solenoid. This is why one solenoid was blown nearly off the top.
I went back to the dealer to tell them of the additional work needed to get them back in good shape.
The additional damage I found was:
1) One more bad solenoid that was leaning to one side. It would have blown completely off the next time you hammered the throttle. Now we have 4 total solenoids that need to be replaced.
2 ) Six injectors with high back leakage from water in the fuel system/tank. All 6 need to come apart, be cleaned, repaired, reassembled and re-calibrated.
I was replacing the solenoids for no charge at the 900 price. 900 is just the rebuilding cost. Solenoids are additional. I did this because you were an existing customer. Typically the cost is much higher.
I have the 3 you authorized for repair already done. 3 new solenoids and 3 complete rebuilds. I have 2 others ripped apart already and can reassemble them and send them back. You can use them as cores if you like when you purchase new ones. The last 3 remaining that are not repaired can not be re-installed. They will damage the engine. How fast do you need this all returned?
Hope this helps,
Don~
12V,
When we received your injectors I visually noticed 3 solenoids broken. One was blown nearly completely off the end/top of the injector and 2 had broken insulators. I assumed since the injectors were here not long ago that this was all the problems they had. The cost is 150-200 each for solenoid replacement and re-calibration. Thats the original 450 price quote.
As it turns out the solenoids were not the only damage. All 6 injectors are leaking in the seat area from water in the fuel. I dont know how much water, but enough to do harm to all 6 and start algae growth. Once the seats are damaged the solenoids can blow off from excessive fuel back leakage that overwhelms the return circuit under the solenoid. This is why one solenoid was blown nearly off the top.
I went back to the dealer to tell them of the additional work needed to get them back in good shape.
The additional damage I found was:
1) One more bad solenoid that was leaning to one side. It would have blown completely off the next time you hammered the throttle. Now we have 4 total solenoids that need to be replaced.
2 ) Six injectors with high back leakage from water in the fuel system/tank. All 6 need to come apart, be cleaned, repaired, reassembled and re-calibrated.
I was replacing the solenoids for no charge at the 900 price. 900 is just the rebuilding cost. Solenoids are additional. I did this because you were an existing customer. Typically the cost is much higher.
I have the 3 you authorized for repair already done. 3 new solenoids and 3 complete rebuilds. I have 2 others ripped apart already and can reassemble them and send them back. You can use them as cores if you like when you purchase new ones. The last 3 remaining that are not repaired can not be re-installed. They will damage the engine. How fast do you need this all returned?
Hope this helps,
Don~
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annabelle,
Seems like you nailed it. I found more damage after the first price quote. I made the mistake of assuming the injectors were most likely ok before bolting them in the test bench.
I see how it could be frustrating for 12V.
Seems like you nailed it. I found more damage after the first price quote. I made the mistake of assuming the injectors were most likely ok before bolting them in the test bench.
I see how it could be frustrating for 12V.
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that's is the difference between an estimate and a set price. Huge difference as a matter of fact. I can tell you that I make sure that I always make it a point to explain it to a customer that each injector is tested when they arrive. You are immediately notified of any injectors that show problems on the test bench. If any test bad, you are notified, you are also told that if we find other problems, it will be an additional charge.
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wow......
NO SOUP for Annabelle!
I was not a mistake and Don should not eat it. There was no fixed quote...it was an estimate to PREDICT repair costs.
If Don were to change his methods...and state fixed price...we all would pay more on average to cover the couple of times his estimates do not cover the actual.
DON'T CHANGE! Don basically is the only person avaible to repair injectors and he does it for MORE THAN A FAIR PRICE.
Don...keep up the good work and don't feel the need to respond to the "sidebar" comments or jabs. I and the rest of us would prefer that you stick to getting our injectors done! ;-)
NO SOUP for Annabelle!
I was not a mistake and Don should not eat it. There was no fixed quote...it was an estimate to PREDICT repair costs.
If Don were to change his methods...and state fixed price...we all would pay more on average to cover the couple of times his estimates do not cover the actual.
DON'T CHANGE! Don basically is the only person avaible to repair injectors and he does it for MORE THAN A FAIR PRICE.
Don...keep up the good work and don't feel the need to respond to the "sidebar" comments or jabs. I and the rest of us would prefer that you stick to getting our injectors done! ;-)
