OK, his customer service is good, but that's not the point.

First, if this thing is a plug in module, any good electronics tech or engineer is going to be able to monitor the input(s) and output(s) to see what it does, compared to those same points without the module. It doesn't matter whether it is digital data, analog voltages, or whatever. This sort of thing is done all the time. In other words, there is no way he is going to be able to keep it a secret from his competitors, period.

So why in the world not tell your customers? I can think of two possible reasons.

1. Marketing. Mysteries sell. People love to think they are getting some sort of secret deal. Marvel Mystery Oil wouldn't have half the sales it does if it were simply called something like Joe's Upper Cylinder Lubricant.

2. It doesn't do anything worthwhile that you can't get elsewhere, possibly for less coin. Notice the posters wondering if it is the functional equivalent of the Rokktech Sensor.

Beyond that, if I am going to put something on my truck that modifies engine parameters, I want to know what it does, so that I can make an informed judgement on the potential benefits versus the potential costs, both short term (what it costs to purchase and install) and long term (what costs might arise because of my using it, including potential warranty issues). Telling me it doesn't raise the rail pressure isn't good enough.

So I won't buy one, as it now stands. I hope those that do get only good results and are happy with the product, but I will look elsewhere, thank you.

 

Yea...X2....

On that note I think I will now finally order the Rokktech and see what results I get from that.

 

Treefarm, I don't understand why you think Quad should be spouting off all the details at this point. You are correct that it will not take long to figure out, but the new model has not been released yet. If it is something new, you at least want to have your product out there so the competition has to play catch up.

How many different parameters can be changed ? My guess is that it will adjust timing, duration, and pressure - oh, and it might be adjustable by downloading different programs.

 

You have made my point. I am not going to buy anything that requires me to guess what engine parameters are being played with. If the manufacturer won't tell me -- and the tone of Quad's post indicates he has no intention of doing so -- I won't buy it.

 

I think you missed the point dude. I am sure you will know everything you wnat after it has been released - just like evry other manufacturer that has half a brain. You already know all the parameters that can be adjusted, so is it really a huge secret ?

 

It is already on sale, so it has already been released. I have no idea what it does. He won't say.

 

From another post it appears to be a timing only module.

MikeyB

 

The information I got was it's a timing only box as it come from quadzillapower. The thing about it is it has a usb port so various programs can be downloaded off the internet. You can change it to what ever program you want from quadzillapower.

 

QZ is pretty smart in coming out with the timing only box. This will allow owners with pressure or duration only boxes to have variable advance timing now to help control EGTs. Brings new life to the older boxes.

MikeyB

 

I don't understand why you are getting so upset over your own problem? If you asked a question and didn't get the response you wanted then do what you are doing now, don't buy it. But make that your bussiness, you saying your not going to buy it does not help us decide if we want to or not.

I don't buy products for my truck that I am skeptical about and that is my decision but I don't get on here and make a big deal about it.

Just give it some time and you will find out what you want or the product will win you over once guys are running them and you may change your mind. Who knows.

 

1. Someone posted he wanted to know what it did.

2. The manufacturer posted that he would not say, so that his competition could not find out.

3. I posted that his postion "kind of bothered" me. I gave my reasons. Some posters agreed with them.

After that, there has been a steady stream of posts by a few people telling me I am wrong and questioning my logic, to which I have responded. I am not making a big, or any other kind of deal about it. I don't have a problem, and I am not upset, but you sure seem to be. It is as if I have offended some sort of icon.

This site is supposed to be for an exchange of ideas about the trucks and the products available for them. Right now, it is starting to seem otherwise.

 

I'm with you treefarm...What kinda of responses do you think I would get if I came on here and said I have made a product that lets our trucks get 50mpg and I'm charging $250, but I will not tell you ANYTHING about it only that you get 50 MPG's!!!

And yes that was me wondering what this product does to my truck to give me better mpg's (Is that so wrong)

 

i have called qaud customer service the other day and he told me it was all timing. It did no boost fooling or pressure.

 

Thanks....That's all I wanted to know...
Didn't want to be buying into some snake oil theory...

 

I come here to learn also and to get new ideas of what I want to do to my truck. But I don't expect a manufactur to get on here and tell us all the little details. No body knows exaclty what Edge, BullyDog, SuperChips, Dr. P, Smarty, TS, Diablo, BD, PPE, Quadzilla is doing. Yes they share the basic means of what they do such as timing, duration and pressure and from what I had read he wasn't exactly hiding that info from us. JMO not trying to start any wars I hope you get the answers you are looking for so you can make your decision of purchasing or not.