The REAL challenge is to do it rowing to boat... and a .057 R.T.
Until they make NOS illegal in drag racing, it is a great way to keep up with the people with the big race dollar.

 

I mean dyno queen achieving those numbers. You can't drive that on the street. 800hp yes, but not that much and you don't have that much without NOS which isn't legal on the street anyway.

Believe me, I totally respect what those with those kind of numbers are doing but, not everyone has the luxury of building another motor when they blow one every time.

Many that are doing it also are sponsored in one way or another which makes it a lot easier too. Heck, if i knew I could get free turbos, injectors...etc, I'd probably push mine to it limits too.

I was only pointing out that, for all you know, the modded rail could give you another 100hp but, you said it's not needed.. period. I don't know for a fact it would do anything but, just because Reb made that much power doesn't mean he can't make more.... maybe even without NOS

 

I'd like some of those big race dollars.... My route is the cheap route..... "Shove more spray in " . My poor little 64mm turbo needs as much as it can handle to keep up with big twin setups....

 

stock rail here also......
oh yeh, and everything on my truck was paid for out of my wallet. No hand outs here!

 

Reb isn't really sponsored. Don has helped him a little, but he doesn't give things away. Turbo.... yeah right. That thing was stupidly expensive. We've only blown up one motor... That was the 6.7 we were playing with in a different 03 truck.

There is always a quest for more power. We may put one on the dyno and see what happens. So far we haven't needed it.

 

Nice job Lloyd!!

 

thanks Erick!

 

agreed... very nice Mr. Mills. The point has been lost from the original question though.... "Are they are worth while mod for a stock CP3 and upgraded lift pump?"

I'm not the expert on this but, I bet it would. Lloyd said you're going from 2 walbros to something bigger. The question is from someone with a upgraded lift pump/stock CP3 and probably looking for the cheapest ( in a good way ) way to achieve 600hp.

For $200, if it's get another 30hp I'd say that was pretty cheap.

Question for you and Reb and/or RC..... why don't you try a modded rail. You guys are pushing everything else, why not try it and report back ?

 

Maybe we do not see a reason to do so.....

 

were is a modded rail 200 dollars? the guy i know that does them himself wants 350 and i thought that was cheap with the machine time involved

 

cant we all just get along! LOL!!! The thread has gone sideways. Poor Barry just wanted to know if it was a step in the right direction with a STOCK cp3 and a upgraded lift pump and it went to 1200 Plus HP trucks and bickering back and forth.

 

nobody is bickering that I can see. The only thing I do see is everyone telling me what I am apparently doing wrong,. LOL Maybe they should show me how to do it right! LOL I also offered my input and pointed him in the cheaper route to getting one done.

 

many props to you Lloyd for the numbers you and others are putting down though and I understand you pointed him in the direction of a less expensive piece.

 

if Loyd can make 1200hp with out one I will save my cash to buy the same mods he has.....lol
unless you are draining the rail with a aftermarket lift pump and modded cp3 or duals then I could see getting a benefit....but if you not draining the rail how would it help????
not trying to fight....just trying to understand.........

 

Heres' my take on it. Some may think I am way off the wall, but this is my opinion, so you do not have to believe it. If I can get enough fuel thru the openings on a stock rail to supply 850 Hp on fuel, and close to 1300 HP on nitrous, why do you need larger openings?

Remember, nitrous will not make power unless the fuel is there to light it off. If I inject nitrous into my cylinder and the fuel is not there to burn it, all it will do is choke the motor out. The fuel was there to do 1280 HP regardless and it was done on a stock rail. The nitrous just provided the oxygen to burn the fuel. It helped equal out on the dyno what the chargers alone would never be able to do. The chargers would never be able to produce enough airflow on an inertia dyno to efficiently burn all the fuel I have.

The point is, we have flowed enough fuel thru a stock rail to produce darn near 1300 HP, so why do you feel the need to increase the openings? I am not trying to attack the makers of the modded rails in anyway. I think it is great to think outside the box. I have even considered one a couple times, but figured I did not need to reinvent the wheel till the time came. I can tell you this much, I will split my block in two before I run out of fuel with this combo.