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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 01:38 AM
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ok so what im reading the smarty and the powermaxcr r49. ok with it ill need

clutch ( call SB)
gages (boost, pyro, and???)
intake, exost (4" or 5"?)
some sort of pusher pump

anything elce? what kind of hp we talking with this stack? big question is i use this truck for work, can this be turned down to get good mpgs and still be able to tow heavy loads too?

o its a 03 HO 6-speed, stock at the moment
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 01:59 AM
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Look into an AirDog or Fass, Also you will probably need some sort of cp3. I would also suggest Injectors. Also you are defiantly gonna need some kind of turbo. If you are wanting to run the TNT program Bob requires you have springs and a cam. Oh and I would also recomend ARP studs. Exhaust you will be fine. Yes it can be turned down very easily, I daily drive my truck everyday.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 02:00 AM
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I'd give it a few weeks or a month on the tst. Alot of people had serious problems with theirs and they just got it figured out. They have been takin care of me on the box which isn't fixed yet but I'm sure they will. I would note most people found the preassure on the tst to harsh so you might want an mp8 also for that little extra preassure, it does help alot.

First though if you want to add preassure you gonna need a lift pump with filters. Also it should be noted that the cp3 drains the rail with anything over the smarty and I think some of the software you can get will be to much for the stock inj. pump.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 02:32 AM
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ok as far as the turbo im looking at twin options. for the cp3 should i be looking at adding a second or just an upgraded? so to start of gages, intake, exost, clutch, smarty and mp8? then keep building till im happy, what kind of hp will i see with that?
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 02:37 AM
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well your talking about alot of mods, depending on turbo choice, single or dual cp3, etc the sky if the limit on hp.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 02:42 AM
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you would be all right with a modded cp3, twins if you are pinching pennies just go with a small single and you can go to twins later. definatly look into a dual disc clutch too. What about injectors? I would do injectors before I boght a prssure box.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 02:43 AM
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what about with just the the second setup i listed? i just talked to a buddy that works for cummins who thinks he can get me a motor cheep to build to drop in later. so i think ill do the gages, intake, exost, fass, clutch, smarty and mp8 on the first motor. while building the second. where will the first setup get me in hp? anything elce i should get for the first setup?
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 02:52 AM
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Man your all ready building another motor? Why not put this one together right so it stays together? You are gonna ned a turbo no mater what. If you want to go with what you said and no turbo, maybe 500hp before you melt the engine down. We've told you everything you need and a turbo is a must, if you plan on running the prssure box all the way up you will be looking into injectors later.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 03:16 AM
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well i can get a new one really cheep so y not?
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 03:26 AM
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interesting logic. But like kman said just throw on some good parts and you can keep what ya got. But anyway yeah inj should be first. That will help to save them if you want to add pres. But if you upgrade the sticks you will probably be looking at a bigger cp3 sooner, depending on what size you get.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 03:43 AM
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Yeah your the first person I've seen that actually looks like your trying to blow the motor up with all the stuuf you want to add on with everything else stock. I would build the one you got now to where it would handle the hp and then build the other motor but missing the parts you put into this motor. I guess some people don't mind throwing 5,000 grand down the crappers??
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tristan21
I'd give it a few weeks or a month on the tst. Alot of people had serious problems with theirs and they just got it figured out. They have been takin care of me on the box which isn't fixed yet but I'm sure they will. I would note most people found the preassure on the tst to harsh so you might want an mp8 also for that little extra preassure, it does help alot.

First though if you want to add preassure you gonna need a lift pump with filters. Also it should be noted that the cp3 drains the rail with anything over the smarty and I think some of the software you can get will be to much for the stock inj. pump.
TST is not the problem on the
03 I woulnt be a bit scared to run a TST on that at all these guys are right thought take care of that motor first then add some power to it. Your going to be hooked on that put you in the seat feeling
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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maybe the full story would help im not trying to blow my motor, it has 170k on and i dont know how well it was taken cair of, i plan on making this one have enoff power to hold me till the new one it built after i swap them ill eather build the block as a replacement (i dont think ill need it) or maybe sell it??? ok whats the best setup for the first motor while i build the second with injectors and all?
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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TST & pressure

Originally Posted by tristan21
I'd give it a few weeks or a month on the tst. Alot of people had serious problems with theirs and they just got it figured out. They have been takin care of me on the box which isn't fixed yet but I'm sure they will. I would note most people found the preassure on the tst to harsh so you might want an mp8 also for that little extra preassure, it does help alot.

First though if you want to add preassure you gonna need a lift pump with filters. Also it should be noted that the cp3 drains the rail with anything over the smarty and I think some of the software you can get will be to much for the stock inj. pump.
It wasn't really the pressure itself with the TST. They definitely know what the problem was and I'm not going into it as that is someone elses issue except for what I said previously about products like TST are initially designed for stand-alone performance and when you stack other products or you stack in other options or mods like modded cp3s or dual cp3s then it's not fair to say it is their problem. However, they have stepped up to uncover how to make their product compatible with these other things I've mentioned and for that they deserve an "atta boy", IMO They absolutely know the issues, and I like you, I'm waiting to get the end result which they said wouldn't take very long since NOW the needs are identified. Those guys are top drawer, IMO at TST or they wouldn't be stepping up.

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