I got my numbers with the TST on 7x7, BDDL on Tow. Trying to use the BDDL, TST, and Ramifier all at once netted me about 100hp less.

With a couple of more dyno runs, I'm sure I would have found the sweet spot. My problem was that I had the TE setting on the TST too high. Should have been at 4 or less.

 

I have the ramifier, not the mp-8. The TST is hooked up first, then the ramifier is plugged into the tst.

 

I dont' have any crazy stacks like that but one observation I have notice by looking at those runs.

1. you never tried ramping the tst torque settings down.
2. you never changed the BDDL settings.
3. you are overlapping multiple parameters from the boxes so findign the correct combination could take a few runs.

If I were doing what you are doing I would ahve started low and then turned the boxes up. not started high and turned them down if those runs are in order.

for expample I think the bddl adds pressure as well in the 90hp setting so maybe the ramifier is not adding much. with the tst in 6/6 for example and the bddl in 90hp you are adding quite of bit of timing and duration between the two. you may also find that since the parameters do all overlap one of the boxes is just not really needed. for example the bddl in performace may add enough pressure to not really need the ramifier. or the tst and the ramifier are good enough with stock turbo and fuel system not to need the BDDL. lot of varibles in there.

since the BDDL is not as ajustable I would leave it alone for the most part but I may try performance and tow just to see. then use the ramifer and the TST to try to tweek the power curve in as they are very adjustable.

Like I said I don't have any first hand but I think it would be easier to spot the power rolling off buy slowly turning things up than starting with all them turned up.

 

Ok you can shut up already about the whole thing. There are people on at least 5 forums that i visit saying "some guy claims" well i can claim whatever the hell i feel like if thats what the dyno said. Do you want me to claim something other than what the dyno said? "oh yeah i made 350hp and 600tq today but the dyno said 430hp and 795tq"

Just stop already. "there is a guy claiming" You better believe it because the dyno said so.

 

must be the "STROKE THIS" decal that adds the other 80hp then (kidding)

 

What I find really interesting are the posters who have never been on a dyno trying to give advice on the issue....

 

I was up at haisleys the other day and I put on a tri-dog and i noticed a huge power loss. I was running my tst on 6x6 and tried different settings on the bullydog, with nothing but more smoke. It seems to me that you need to try a lower TST setting.

 

I didn't mean to get everyone mad at each other, i'm just really dumb when it comes to this kinda stuff and i'm trying to find the best combo i thank everyone for their help! Justin when is a good time to call,also u might pm me your number, i have one but i'm not sure its correct. Thanks again! O by the way i talked to Mark at TST and he said 460-470hp is all i'm gonna see without a cp3 and injectors.

 

Lots of good advice here. The best, if you can decipher it from all this, is to always stack with moderation. Gypsyman has the same truck as you and did 640hp with a triple stack. Settings were ultra low though. You need to understand what each box, and each setting on each box does….or have a lot of dyno time.

One thing I can add is……get rid of the TST twins program. The singles program has finer fueling adjustments. What the rail can handle is spread out over the entire 9 levels, where the twins program is usually done at level 5, all by itself with no stack, if you have stock injectors. You will make better power with the singles program. You can wake up the low end power in other ways.

I agree that the TST, BDDL, MP-8 might be a little much. Everything your doing with those three can be done with two. I personally would ditch the MP-8. That is just me though.

As they mentioned, every truck is different. Just have to try different things. I think your max power could be found with the BDDL on Extreme and TST SINGLES program somewhere around 4/4.

Then again, if you have run a pressure box turned up high, your relief valve could be popped. Seen that cause your problem on more than one occasion.

 

Ok 1st things 1st. I've had hours on dynos and been in observace of many more. Let everyone know what type of dyno you ran on and I can guide you from there. Your problem may not be so much with your settings at all, just operator error.

The last dyno day I went to was BTS's open house where I observed about 50 diff trucks pull on the "Dynojet" dyno. Almost all who ran, came away disapointed. The ones who had big aftermaket turbos in fact were outrite upset. There was a very famous Power Stroke there called "Snow White" a bonofied 700+hp truck. You know what he pulled on the acceleration type dyno? 478hp!!!! thats it! Only one guy with twins, was able to fool the dyno with a little foot braking to bring boost up, and having his tq conv manually locked. Our trucks need a load to keep boost up and allow the true max HP ratings to show themselves.

 

David Dunbars dyno is what TS had down there last weekend and it is the gold standard as far as dyno's go in diesel performance.
Yes, it is an inertia dynojet.

I can tell you he knows how to dyno diesels since thats basically what he does.

Its not a dyno issue.
Dynojets have proven themselves in the diesel world many times over.

I can understand having a bad operator sometimes but alot of times people blame the dyno when they dont see the numbers they thought they had (not talking about you Justin).
Thats why they call it the humbler.

Justin's combination on his truck is a PROVEN combination and the reason I know that is because I had an almost identical combination last year and did 526hp on the same exact dyno.
That leads me to believe that there is another issue with his truck that needs to be found before he goes further.
Could be a pump, rail, etc..

Justin:
I did the 526 with a stock pump and stock injectors.
There have been runs (whitesport600) at or about 550hp with stock injectors and pump.

 

Well, I guess we can eliminate that as one possibility. But as far as dynos go, I'm sure you aggree that if they are not using the Eddy Brake control on the Dynojet, and just letting it freespin, you will never get true #'s from it. That was the problem at the BTS event, they just instaled the new dyno and didn't have the brake set up yet. I personally believe a load dyno is more accurate for our app without needing a degree to run one. They're pretty much no brainer.

Given this, I aggree with the others here that you are draining the rail to soon using the high settings of the TST box. It will take some manipulation to get the best #'s on a dyno. Just remember, real world street is a whole other ballgame. I got my best dyno #'s with the Edge on lev.5/BDPP on lev.2. My dyno #'s dropped when I put them both maxed out. However real world street and 1/4mi. times show different. I know my max sustained hp is with both boxes turned wide open, I know this, cause at the track, I was running a consistant 3tenths and 2.5mph quicker maxed out at 5/3 vs. the dyno #'s showing me that lev. 5/2 was most power. However, i get a slightly higher peek while using the lower settings on a dyno. I think it's because the fueling programs and boost spool-up matches the dyno better on the lower settings. The reason being, is the boost and spool-up occurs much quicker on the dyno, whereas it is slower, and more sustaind with a better load while on the street.

 

Well how do i tell if the relief valve is bad?

 

I agree that the TST, BDDL, MP-8 might be a little much. Everything your doing with those three can be done with two. I personally would ditch the MP-8. That is just me though.

I have the ramifier, not the mp-8. The TST is hooked up first, then the ramifier is plugged into the tst.

He does not have an MP-8 it is the Ramifier.

 

Getting close to 600 hp on stock pump and injectors...

Forget about me? LOL